The ACC nukes Australian sport

[Simmo79]

lol

Dank's nose touching gets called out at BigFooty. Essendon fans' denial is undented

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/a ... 3/page-127

[Simmo79]

Body language experts assemble!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-11/f ... fl/4513090

[Simmo79]

Remembering that the ACC/ASADA have no jurisdiction over the Warriors, we now know who the NRL 6 are.

[bazza]

Remembering that the ACC/ASADA have no jurisdiction over the Warriors, we now know who the NRL 6 are.

Parramatta have a chance to make the 8 this year...

[Simmo79]

notes from Senate Estimates, John Lawler, CEO of the ACC. Questioned by Senator Brandis (shadow A-G)

How did Project Aperio report begin? 2011 around SOC penetration of professional sport, high level intel report detailed those threats and vulnerabilities. Gaps in intel where ACC not sufficient confident understood, special Operation on high risk and emerging drugs, Special Op set by ACC Board, monitoring brief on how illicit market works, included new generation PIEDS (ie/ peptides) and their relationship to Organised Crime.

Complex legal framework for PIEDs. Not just about WADA/ASADA codes. Some unlawful to import and supply under Therapeutic Goods Administration Act. Gaps in law where supply of peptides may be a breach of WADA code but not breach TGA Act.

Decision to launch Project Aperio – Board decision, worked with ASADA from the beginning as partnership with specific objectives of working scope of market and penetration by SOC. Importation and trafficking, also infiltration of OC into professional sport. What unfolded was that there was a significant risk of corruption of players. Multiple people in multiple codes.

Brandis former Minister for Sport, asking AFL to abandon 3 –strikes policy for illicit drugs, makes it clear that existence of illicit drugs in AFL was a well-known fact during Howard era. Not new for illicit drugs to be a problem in sport.

Significance of peptides in professional sport is just one dimension of the ACC report.
Emphasised that the importance of the report is that they found associations between organised crime and professional athletes. This is partly through SOC having business structures which have developed formal arrangements with sporting codes, and partly because the ACC saw vulnerability to match-fixing via supply of illicit substances to compromise indivdual sportsmen.

AFP not involved in operational activities.

Classified report to S/T police and crime commissions. Also100+ specific intelligence disseminations to police.

No arrests yet. Emphasised that the purpose of Special Operations is to gather intelligence, not make arrests. Arrests are up to S/T police who further develop the ACC’s intel into a broader case supported by evidence.

Coercive hearing = no right to silence, obligation to tell the truth. Have happened. Players? Refused to answer because of secrecy provisions and wouldn’t elaborate on what classes of people were subject to the coercive hearings.

Tarred with the same brush accusation. Sympathetic with that perception but the lack of detail in the report is because of secrecy provisions, the right to fair trials of the (eventual) accused. Community safety issue has been ignored in the public discussion -> preference to explain himself to media and estimates than to a coroner.
Unfair to sports other than AFL & NRL to call it a problem with sport as a whole? Legal impediments.

Brandis had a long go at what he perceived to be 'tentative' conclusions of the report. Emphasised classified report is where the detail is and where the conclusions are justified. Press conference was appropriate because of the very significant number of individuals doping. Serious public safety/public health issue, with organised crime exarcebating those risks.

Brandis took a swipe at AD because 6 years ago he was assured that the AFL had the problem under control.

[dibo]

Remembering that the ACC/ASADA have no jurisdiction over the Warriors, we now know who the NRL 6 are.

Parramatta have a chance to make the 8 this year...

pffft...

[IanRitchie]

Remembering that the ACC/ASADA have no jurisdiction over the Warriors

if we were doping last year i'd get a new supplier

[Simmo79]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-ne ... 6217676548

ROBINSON is the first to admit he does things differently. The ferocity of his program caused casualties early on, but he said that was inevitable.

"At the end of the day when you do accelerate people and you do push them you find weaknesses. In the first four weeks we wanted to find the weaknesses and once we found them we could strengthen them," he said.

"They've already put size on and that was something we did at Geelong where some of those guys put on seven kilos in seven weeks and it was functional mass."

^ Old quote from the AFL 2013 thread. Let’s put some context on these muscle gain expectations

http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/how-much ... -you-gain/

How Fast Can You Build Muscle… REALLY?
Well, once again, I’m going by various trainers/coaches I’ve heard discuss the true rate of muscle growth among their clients, the few studies that have looked at this as well, and my own 10+ years of first hand experience and observation.
Based on all of this, here’s how fast you can expect to build muscle on average:
•Average Natural MAN: between 0.25 and 0.5 pounds of muscle per week (or about 1-2 pounds of muscle gained per month) [approx. 1kg per month].
•Average Natural WOMAN: between 0.12 – 0.25 pounds of muscle per week (or about 0.5-1 pound of muscle gained per month).
Once again, we’re strictly talking MUSCLE, not WEIGHT. Besides actual muscle, weight gained throughout the week could be (and often is) fat, water or glycogen. We’re not talking about any of those here.
And really, this is the rate you can expect under the best possible circumstances. Meaning, an ideal muscle building workout routine and diet, an ideal amount of sleep, rest, recovery, consistency, lack of stress, and so on. Basically, when everything is done as perfectly as it could be, this is how fast you can expect to build muscle.

Seriously, Robinson and Dank were doing the dirty at Geelong before they got to Essendon.

[yob]

FFA statement re: betting scandal on A-League game. Verdict: bullshit, $5 million was wagered, not $49. News LTD fails at basic fact checking - and converting currency from HK to AUD.

[gyfox]

I was just checking Western Sydney Wanderers list of corporate partners and found MrSupplement on the list. Hmmm.

[yob]

Not ACC, but topical.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl ... 6579848727

Nobody is safe this Summer.

[NRLandMore]

North Queensland Cowboys cleared of involvement in ACC probe

North Queensland Cowboys CEO Peter Jourdain says the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority has informed him that the team has no case to answer in the Australian Crime Commission doping probe.

http://news.com.au/top-stories/north-qu ... 6577907674

Of the five Remaining clubs, the following are at "low risk":
Penrith Panthers (http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 2epm4.html)
Canberra Raiders (http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-l ... 2eavt.html)
Cronulla Sharks (http://www.sportal.com.au/league-news-d ... ugs-221890)
Manly Sea Eagles (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/ph ... 6575884763)

[Simmo79]

Personally, I'm sceptical of any club that is pronouncing itself clean at this early juncture. There's a lot of detail that the ACC passed onto the cops as intel reports. Apparently more than 100 separate reports. The clubs as institutions might be 'clean' but they could well have multiple players implicated yet. There's a lot of water to pass under the bridge

[NRLandMore]

The NRL were given permission to tell the clubs involved. Since then the ACC has told the clubs why they are involved.

The ACC has since told one of the clubs they are clean and take no further part in the investigations after handing over the information the ACC required.

In short the clubs know a lot more than the fans. If a club says they have been cleared by the ACC, then they are cleared as the ACC would of had to give them permission to publicly saying so otherwise the club as well as the CEO personally would be in trouble.

There are five NRL clubs under investigation currently. For Manly, Penrith & Cronulla it has been confirmed they have been named in relation to single person in the investigation. That person was never employed for a consultant at Penrith, while Cronulla removed that person swiftly (only a few weeks into the job) after the team doctor disagreed with something he wanted to do. This person worked at Manly for a number of years.

After hearing the details of the report and the reason why the clubs were named, three clubs of the original six that were named are seeking their legal options with the possibility of suing.

How is the Eddie Obeid and Craig Thompson case's going? No one seems to care anymore....

[yob]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a ... 2f6dx.html

So now we've got rumours of players jabbing minute amounts of a variety of hormones and peptides which individualy don't set off alarms but sum of all parts results give an edge. Sort of like captain planet, but basically not.

I do have to say though, the papers are turning over a lot of highly topical, highly unsubtantiated rumour bullshit at the moment. And aint I lovin' it.