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It was 'wear something red day'...

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It was a protest against the Thai government.

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Kurt Tippett moving to Swans because of Sydney lifestyle. Who would have thought! Or is it the attractiveness of leaving the Adelaide lifestyle :lol:

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nobleoz wrote:Kurt Tippett moving to Swans because of Sydney lifestyle. Who would have thought! Or is it the attractiveness of leaving the Adelaide lifestyle :lol:
That will mean there are 4 Sydney born players in the Swans squad of 40. AFL is certainly competing in Sydney.

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gyfox wrote:
nobleoz wrote:Kurt Tippett moving to Swans because of Sydney lifestyle. Who would have thought! Or is it the attractiveness of leaving the Adelaide lifestyle :lol:
That will mean there are 4 Sydney born players in the Swans squad of 40. AFL is certainly competing in Sydney.
Meh. Draft.

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Newbold called on the AFL to review the 9.8 per cent concession (an additional $862,000) in the salary cap that Sydney and Greater Western Sydney received to offset higher costs of living there.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/club ... z28fpcNH2n
I just did a quick flick through the net and found sites claiming between 8 and 25% difference between the cost of living in Sydney and Melbourne. One report produced for Melbourne City Council showed cost of living index compared to New York = 100 was 91.1 for Sydney and 78.8 for Melbourne. Interestingly it showed Sydney salaries to be the highest in the nation at 3% above the national average ahead of Perth at 2% and all other capitals at or below the national average. Other articles said Sydney now had higher cost of living than New York due to the rise in A$ but so too had most cities in Australia now. In every article Sydney rated as the most expensive city in the country.

Is it reasonable for salary caps to reflect relative costs of living? Is Newbold's point that any allowance needs to be spread across all contracts reasonable and how could it be policed?

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gyfox wrote:
Newbold called on the AFL to review the 9.8 per cent concession (an additional $862,000) in the salary cap that Sydney and Greater Western Sydney received to offset higher costs of living there.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/club ... z28fpcNH2n
I just did a quick flick through the net and found sites claiming between 8 and 25% difference between the cost of living in Sydney and Melbourne. One report produced for Melbourne City Council showed cost of living index compared to New York = 100 was 91.1 for Sydney and 78.8 for Melbourne. Interestingly it showed Sydney salaries to be the highest in the nation at 3% above the national average ahead of Perth at 2% and all other capitals at or below the national average. Other articles said Sydney now had higher cost of living than New York due to the rise in A$ but so too had most cities in Australia now. In every article Sydney rated as the most expensive city in the country.

Is it reasonable for salary caps to reflect relative costs of living? Is Newbold's point that any allowance needs to be spread across all contracts reasonable and how could it be policed?
At many multi-national companies, you often get paid extra based on how crap the place is that you have been asked to work in rather than living costs
So the SA teams should get higher salary caps

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I think the cost of living bonus is a bit of a wank, especially with its limited application. I mean, why not pick the cheapest town in Australia with a team, give them 100% and work everyone else forward you want to do it properly? Everyone would blow up.

The other thing is that when you're in a role whose average income pushes $200k and your minimum is at about $100k, having a whinge about the expensive cost of living is a bit rich. $200k in Sydney might not stretch you as far as it would in Melb, but f**k me you'd have a great living both cities and asking for an extra few percent is a bit rich. Call it what it is, a bonus for the Sydney teams to boost talent.

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If the bonus was about cost of living, then all clubs' salary caps would be indexed.

Also another thing that's never mentioned about the cost of living furphy is generally 1/3 of income is spent on an asset that is a reliable long term storer of wealth - property. Look who's poorer now.

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bazza wrote:
gyfox wrote:
Newbold called on the AFL to review the 9.8 per cent concession (an additional $862,000) in the salary cap that Sydney and Greater Western Sydney received to offset higher costs of living there.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/club ... z28fpcNH2n
I just did a quick flick through the net and found sites claiming between 8 and 25% difference between the cost of living in Sydney and Melbourne. One report produced for Melbourne City Council showed cost of living index compared to New York = 100 was 91.1 for Sydney and 78.8 for Melbourne. Interestingly it showed Sydney salaries to be the highest in the nation at 3% above the national average ahead of Perth at 2% and all other capitals at or below the national average. Other articles said Sydney now had higher cost of living than New York due to the rise in A$ but so too had most cities in Australia now. In every article Sydney rated as the most expensive city in the country.

Is it reasonable for salary caps to reflect relative costs of living? Is Newbold's point that any allowance needs to be spread across all contracts reasonable and how could it be policed?
At many multi-national companies, you often get paid extra based on how crap the place is that you have been asked to work in rather than living costs
So the SA teams should get higher salary caps
If there were any multinational companies based in Adelaide then I guess we'd be able to compare.

Yes, I know about f***ing Santos.....

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yob wrote:If the bonus was about cost of living, then all clubs' salary caps would be indexed.

Also another thing that's never mentioned about the cost of living furphy is generally 1/3 of income is spent on an asset that is a reliable long term storer of wealth - property. Look who's poorer now.

On that point the median house price in Sydney is about 25% higher than Melbourne and the median apartment/unit price is just over 10% higher.

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gyfox wrote:
yob wrote:If the bonus was about cost of living, then all clubs' salary caps would be indexed.

Also another thing that's never mentioned about the cost of living furphy is generally 1/3 of income is spent on an asset that is a reliable long term storer of wealth - property. Look who's poorer now.

On that point the median house price in Sydney is about 25% higher than Melbourne and the median apartment/unit price is just over 10% higher.
But the difference, whether it be higher or lower, is immaterial. Sure a Sydney player will pay more for a house than Melbourne, but at the end of it he owns an asset worth more. The money that is being "spent" is being saved in an asset.

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Drugs cost more!

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the crow wrote:Drugs cost more!

The voice of experience? :wink:

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some good shiet

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