16 grounds for an Australian FIFA World Cup ...

cam · Post by **cam** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:22 pm

Watch the HD version of the ad here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioIW0ZeONrM
Look at the end, notice the stadium is sitting on top of the SCG!

timmers · Post by **timmers** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:56 pm

cam wrote:Watch the HD version of the ad here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioIW0ZeONrM
Look at the end, notice the stadium is sitting on top of the SCG!

Interesting, also I think if you look at the shot just after 2 minutes through, its at Homebush. have a look and compare it to a photo on airviewonline.com.au (i'll avoid putting a link because I don't want to stretch the page) search Sydney Showgrounds and Telstra Stadium and its the first photo that comes up.

It was the athletics stadium that clinched it for me

yob · Post by **yob** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:04 am

Where abouts will this stadium that doesn't exist not be built?

hot_dogma · Post by **hot_dogma** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:24 am

Build it in Tarcutta.

Simmo79 · Post by **Simmo79** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:29 am

Jeffles wrote:
hot_dogma wrote:I totally wasn't inspired.

What inspires me is what would be good Aussie FIFA bribes.
Take the officials to the rub and tug joints. Isn't that what Labozetta used to do?

yeah but he wasn't bidding for anything, it was just Saturday night.

IIRC the Sydney Olympics bid committee took the IOC officials to higher quality establishments

jacobhalls · Post by **jacobhalls** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:31 am

First panned shot of the stadium that doesnt exist is at Homebush on top of where ANZ Stadium & the Sydney Showground is. You can tell this by the athletics track in the top left corner - [url]http://www.airviewonline.com.au/photos/ ... ra-Stadium[/url]

At the end of the ad/movie it is shwon next to thje SFS, where the SCG is. You can just see the SFS roof so you know thats where it is. I wonder why they didnt go with stadium that do exist e.g. Suncorp Stadium, ANZ Stadium & so on. Maybe they really will build a stadium of this calibre but odds would be 100:1.

Simmo79 · Post by **Simmo79** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:32 am

It's a magic stadium that can move across town and you don't have to pay image rights to put it in your advertising

Egan · Post by **Egan** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:35 pm

The best part of the Advertiser article was that they promised Federal government funding.

yob · Post by **yob** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:12 pm

Simmo79 wrote:It's a magic stadium that can move across town and you don't have to pay image rights to put it in your advertising

Probably saving every penny for the 25,000 seat ikea crud stadiums + 20,000 stuck on seats with portaloos. Really nice portaloos.

Dasher39 · Post by **Dasher39** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:38 pm

Egan wrote:The best part of the Advertiser article was that they promised Federal government funding.

It was never really in any doubt, given how strongly the Govt are pushing for this. Any works associated with the 2018 WC Bid will receive strong Fed Govt backing.

I still have a feeling SA will end up with a new Rectangular Stadium.

Egan · Post by **Egan** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:58 pm

Well you have to say that Dasher, we have a $10 bet on it.

The Advertiser said it is the most likely outcome, however no decision has been made. Kudos to the FFA going back on the decision to rule out Adelaide Oval

Dasher39 · Post by **Dasher39** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:52 pm

Egan wrote:The Advertiser said it is the most likely outcome, however no decision has been made.

Is that an AO Redevelopment or a new rectangular stadium?

gyfox · Post by **gyfox** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:04 pm

I had a good look at Stadium Australia last week. With the ground set up in rectangular mode the width of the grassed area is less than Olympia Stadion in Berlin. Row 20 in the moveable stands was a great view but it is at the drip line of the roof. The rake of the bottom bowl is fairly flat, probably a C of 60 mm. I couldn't see the sideline because of the portable advertising boards. I am not sure that they were the FIFA standard 900 mm high, they looked taller. If they could replicate the top tier at the northern end at the southern end then capacity could be increased by about 3,500 seats. I didn't check the structure externally but the inside is identical so I assume it can be done. Reworking the roof at both ends and putting in another tier would be a big job and would gain something of the order of 8,000 seats. While bringing the stadium to 95,000 seats would be great for the WC I wonder whether the cost would be too great.

Egan · Post by **Egan** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:00 am

Dasher39 wrote:
Egan wrote:The Advertiser said it is the most likely outcome, however no decision has been made.
Is that an AO Redevelopment or a new rectangular stadium?

Adelaide Oval redevelopment is favoured by the Rann Government instead of a rectangular stadium.

As I have said many times before...

dibo · Post by **dibo** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:09 am

gyfox wrote:I had a good look at Stadium Australia last week. With the ground set up in rectangular mode the width of the grassed area is less than Olympia Stadion in Berlin. Row 20 in the moveable stands was a great view but it is at the drip line of the roof. The rake of the bottom bowl is fairly flat, probably a C of 60 mm. I couldn't see the sideline because of the portable advertising boards. I am not sure that they were the FIFA standard 900 mm high, they looked taller. If they could replicate the top tier at the northern end at the southern end then capacity could be increased by about 3,500 seats. I didn't check the structure externally but the inside is identical so I assume it can be done. Reworking the roof at both ends and putting in another tier would be a big job and would gain something of the order of 8,000 seats. While bringing the stadium to 95,000 seats would be great for the WC I wonder whether the cost would be too great.

I'd like them to bring the bottom tier in to surround a newly defined 85m x 130m turf surface that would be perfect for the codes that use the stadium most.

Apparently the last redevelopment to take out the end stands, reshape the end of the seating bowl, set up the retractable tiers and build the end rooves cost $80 million.

Assuming even that reshaping the bottom tier would cost twice or three times that, we would convert a stadium that is capable of many things but excellent at none to a stadium that is capable of one less thing (that usually yields 3 match days a year) but excellent at hosting the events that are there for tens of days per year, all for about the cost of one of the ikeadomes.