$450 Million Upgrade for Adelaide Oval - will host AFL/WC

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Great pic I was playing where's Waldo for a while in the office.
All those cricket print media seats are empty in the south stand.

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SMA thinks the Cows and Paa will be $12 million ahead on this year due to the move to AO:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6900119960

This isn't too hard to believe considering the success of Port Adelaide so far. They average 44,545 over 3 fixtures with a good mix of blockbusters to come (Hawthorn, Essendon), and they've posted a whopping 52,000 members.

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It's a really good move. It's basically taken Port from the treatment table to the restaurant table.

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The club's views of the benefits of AO don't match what the SANFL are saying due to increased costs. $6.9+m is a bit less than $12m.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6912513543

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Overall, useless to debate. Stadium Return means whatever you want it to mean.

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Some details of the cost to run the stadium are given in the linked article. It is costing $111k for tonights game.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6929173053

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Michaelangelo Rucci is just about the least reputable sports journalist in Australia. He has a heavy bias toward Port Adelaide and will quite happily push their agenda through the media given the opportunity. He's also one of the uglier blokes you'll see, looks like a tuna. As an early 20 something I used to love throwing abuse at the prick whenever he walked the boundary at Football Park.



On the issue of Stadium Return. It's a bold faced lie. It's an accounting ploy to move all the matchday revenue away from matchday, trying to produce the lowest revenue figure possible, so it can be used as a political football to leverage lower rent.

100k to host a match. How do we cry poor from an attendance of 40,000? Easy. Funnel away all the revenue from the attendance to membership. You see, we can't count the half a million in ticket receipts as match day revenue, because then it'd look like we massively profit from the game. Don't let the land lord know! What should our GA allocation be to produce a loss? sh*t, lower it by 100 seats, we need it to be red!

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So the football clubs are complaining that the organisation that stumped up the cash to redevelop the Adelaide Oval is trying to recoup those costs? A redevelopment that has seen the average of games at the AO this year reach over 45,500 per game.

OK.....

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Don't even try to comprehend it, it'll only give you a headache.

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Port v Dawks
Official crowd: 52,233... biggest ever "AFL" crowd in SA

Fair effort from a club that had to tarp-off sections of seating at Footy Park in recent years.

On track to smash their previous best season ave 35,829 set way back in 1997.
I know they're traveling well at the moment but the move to AO will definitely eclipse their attendances during the table topping seasons of a decade ago.

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Next time someone raves about how us A-League supporters are overly impressed with ourselves (and we are), someone should point that article out.

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It will be interesting to see the results of this. The article says that "normal" at football is 95dBA and the Seahawks got a result 40dBA higher. Every 10 dBA is a doubling of the "noise" the ear hears so to match the Seahawks result will mean they have to get an increase of 16 fold to that 95 dBA norm.

With a hand held instrument Rothfield measured The Cove peaking at 109 dBA and the RBB peaking at 117dBA at a Sydney derby at Allianz last year but it sounds like these measurements will be more accurate.

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The two records set by the Paa at Football Park were both the final siren roar of games against Brisbane (regular season, minor premiership) and St Kilda (winning preliminary final). There's a high standard deviation for crowd noises so what we're really looking for is the climax rather than expecting 52,000 port fans to accost Brayden & Jayden 16 times louder than usual. If the game isn't close then IMO they're wasting their time. As a positive though, the Paa fans set the record in 2004 with a crowd of 47,000. If they top 50,000 then that's an extra 3,000 mouths and negligible increase in teeth to help.




On decibels, I've been crushed on the front rail of a Metallica show for 2 hours and if the Seahawks can get within 30 decibels of that then they've got my respect.

Couldn't hear sh*t for 48 hours.

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yob wrote:On decibels, I've been crushed on the front rail of a Metallica show for 2 hours and if the Seahawks can get within 30 decibels of that then they've got my respect.

Couldn't hear sh*t for 48 hours.
Centre front row is the quietest place for most arena/stadium gigs due to the usual location of speakers at the sides of stage. All you hear is reflected sound. Generally speaking the pub rock gigs of the late 70s and early 80s were the most damaging - The Angels/Rose Tattoo/Midnight Oil/Cold Chisel/etc. Ridiculously over-powered PAs in too small venues with little regulation and enforcement of health and safety issues. Gigs these days don't compare.

THOSE were the days... 8)

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