Proposed WACA Redevelopment
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Proposed WACA Redevelopment
Well as I predicted, the temporary stand would knock the Inverarity and Prindiville Stands down.
I am sort of in support.
Although what happens if the Warriors win the right to hold the One Day Competition or the Shield Final?
Surely they will have precedence over the Rugby?
Late Season Matches at Leederville? One Day Domestic Final at Leederville would be fantastic
It just doesn't make sense though, play your earlier matches at the WACA and then play games at an inferior venue for the finals...although drop in wickets will probably make this problem less of a deal then I am making it out to be...You could probably feasibly play cricket one week and rugby union on the same ground the week after with a drop in wicket?
It means a slightly inferior rectangular stadium, but with the added bonus for additional capacity for one day internationals (that currently sell out yearly)...and Ashes Test Matches.
Anyways here's the report, basically as I suggested except for the two tier stands on both sides of the ground.
www.thewest.com.au
WACA in revamp pitch for Super 14
JOHN TOWNSEND
The WA Cricket Association will build a retractable stand seating 20,000 fans, use drop-in pitches and play its late season matches at another venue in a bold bid to attract the Western Force as a permanent tenant.
Desperate to find another income source to guarantee its long-term survival at WA's cricket headquarters, the WACA has made a strong play to also become the home of WA's Super 14 team.
Pre-empting the interim report of the Langoulant stadium task force, WACA officials have given Rugby WA a proposal to move to East Perth by offering to:
Demolish the existing Inverarity and Prindiville stands to make way for a new retractable stand on the northern flank.
Move cricket away in February and March.
Remove the 10-pitch centre square and replace it with a drop-in playing surface.Obviously their previous concerns about the pitch changing have evaporated after this season.
The major redevelopment - the biggest in the ground's chequered history - would lift the capacity to 35,000 and cost more than $50 million.
It would require significant State Government support with the WACA eyeing the $25 million committed by then premier Geoff Gallop to an upgrade of Members Equity Stadium during WA's bid in 2004 to secure the new Super 14 licence.
WACA chairman David Williams presented the redevelopment plan to Alan Carpenter last month as well as to the Langoulant task force.
"The WACA officials used the occasion to discuss a proposal they are developing with Rugby WA," the Premier said. "The proposal was purely conceptual and preliminary. I indicated I would be happy to meet them again once they developed more specific details."
Cricket officials believe the task force will recommend a two-stadium deal with a greenfields site or revamped Subiaco Oval hosting football while the WACA could be the site of the rectangular stadium required for rugby and soccer. I am tipping that Cockburn has rocketed into contention over the last few months.
It would also become the centrepiece of a new residential and commercial precinct as part of the East Perth Gateway project.
"The WACA is not a sustainable business case long term with cricket as its only tenant,"(Different to what Dodemaide told me last season) Mr Williams said. "We are having a serious crack at getting rugby to the WACA.
"It will require a lot of money so we could knock down the Prindiville and Inverarity stands and erect a retractable stand that would be out for cricket and in February would go in for rugby."
Mr Williams said the WACA would continue to host international cricket but would transfer State matches to another ground once the Super 14 season started in February.
Rugby WA chairman Geoff Stooke confirmed positive discussions had been held with the WACA but nothing further would develop until the Langoulant report was released.
I am sort of in support.
Although what happens if the Warriors win the right to hold the One Day Competition or the Shield Final?
Surely they will have precedence over the Rugby?
Late Season Matches at Leederville? One Day Domestic Final at Leederville would be fantastic
It just doesn't make sense though, play your earlier matches at the WACA and then play games at an inferior venue for the finals...although drop in wickets will probably make this problem less of a deal then I am making it out to be...You could probably feasibly play cricket one week and rugby union on the same ground the week after with a drop in wicket?
It means a slightly inferior rectangular stadium, but with the added bonus for additional capacity for one day internationals (that currently sell out yearly)...and Ashes Test Matches.
Anyways here's the report, basically as I suggested except for the two tier stands on both sides of the ground.
www.thewest.com.au
WACA in revamp pitch for Super 14
JOHN TOWNSEND
The WA Cricket Association will build a retractable stand seating 20,000 fans, use drop-in pitches and play its late season matches at another venue in a bold bid to attract the Western Force as a permanent tenant.
Desperate to find another income source to guarantee its long-term survival at WA's cricket headquarters, the WACA has made a strong play to also become the home of WA's Super 14 team.
Pre-empting the interim report of the Langoulant stadium task force, WACA officials have given Rugby WA a proposal to move to East Perth by offering to:
Demolish the existing Inverarity and Prindiville stands to make way for a new retractable stand on the northern flank.
Move cricket away in February and March.
Remove the 10-pitch centre square and replace it with a drop-in playing surface.Obviously their previous concerns about the pitch changing have evaporated after this season.
The major redevelopment - the biggest in the ground's chequered history - would lift the capacity to 35,000 and cost more than $50 million.
It would require significant State Government support with the WACA eyeing the $25 million committed by then premier Geoff Gallop to an upgrade of Members Equity Stadium during WA's bid in 2004 to secure the new Super 14 licence.
WACA chairman David Williams presented the redevelopment plan to Alan Carpenter last month as well as to the Langoulant task force.
"The WACA officials used the occasion to discuss a proposal they are developing with Rugby WA," the Premier said. "The proposal was purely conceptual and preliminary. I indicated I would be happy to meet them again once they developed more specific details."
Cricket officials believe the task force will recommend a two-stadium deal with a greenfields site or revamped Subiaco Oval hosting football while the WACA could be the site of the rectangular stadium required for rugby and soccer. I am tipping that Cockburn has rocketed into contention over the last few months.
It would also become the centrepiece of a new residential and commercial precinct as part of the East Perth Gateway project.
"The WACA is not a sustainable business case long term with cricket as its only tenant,"(Different to what Dodemaide told me last season) Mr Williams said. "We are having a serious crack at getting rugby to the WACA.
"It will require a lot of money so we could knock down the Prindiville and Inverarity stands and erect a retractable stand that would be out for cricket and in February would go in for rugby."
Mr Williams said the WACA would continue to host international cricket but would transfer State matches to another ground once the Super 14 season started in February.
Rugby WA chairman Geoff Stooke confirmed positive discussions had been held with the WACA but nothing further would develop until the Langoulant report was released.
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Last redevelopment done was to move away from football and look towards accomodating the rectangular sports...they built it so that the Glory would think about moving in.Jeffles wrote:What a waste when they could be doing more with MES - a purpose built venue!
The WACA lost its chance at relevance when its redevelopment precluded WAFL games being played there.
MES is not popular because of the rentage issue with Tana - who still holds managerial rights over the stadium.
Rugby League have the opposite view on playing games at the WACA...I also think the WACA will have a problem getting that much funding for a non-governmental ground, when MES can be redeveloped and still be owned by local and state government.
I think its not completely likely at the present stage...I think it will be enticing for the Force, I just doubt our Premier will want to fund the WACA.
Only thing it will be good for is WACA Membership purchases and the increased capacity for Blockbuster matches, but I don't think one year of good test match crowds warrant an increase in capacity for the few blockbuster clashes a year (eg we still didn't sell out the first day of the test match last year)
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I dont read the "worst australian" very often so I missed all this stuff. Couldnt find anything on the WACA or Western Force websites.
Why would they want to knock down the Prindiville stand? The Inverarity seems a fair way from the action but the view from there is alright actually.
Better than watching the Rugby at Subi I reckon...
Why would they want to knock down the Prindiville stand? The Inverarity seems a fair way from the action but the view from there is alright actually.
Better than watching the Rugby at Subi I reckon...
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And you wonder why I wanted to blow the entire stadium up a few years ago.Jeffles wrote:The WACA are kidding themselves if they think their recent redevelopment will attract rectangle sports, especially when there was all the show about a pupose built venue.
This was the making of Kath White...the twit with a capital T.
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Looking at the state budget the 25 million dollar redevelopment of MES is still on the cards...a 5 million dollar State Netball Centre will also be built...hopefully it looks a bit like ETSA Park.
As well as the 190 million dollar Indoor Stadium will be built.
24.5 million dollars will be spent next year, with only $500,000 spent, probably in artist impressions and planning..
Bad Luck Force and WACA.
As well as the 190 million dollar Indoor Stadium will be built.
24.5 million dollars will be spent next year, with only $500,000 spent, probably in artist impressions and planning..
Bad Luck Force and WACA.
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I don't understand, why is it bad luck for the Force? Surely if the $25m development at MES goes ahead then they're closer to having a true rectangular Rugby stadium as opposed to the compromise oval that the WACA is proposing or the full size AFL oval they're currently stuck with. Based on their crowds for the season just finished (including novelty value), a 25,000-30,000 ish MES would be more than suitable for most games with the option to still host one or two blockbuster matches at the larger AFL ground (whether that be Subiaco or a new venue). How do they lose out?
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Because Force management are the ones that don't want a 22,000 capacity stadium...they are now demanding a 35,000 seat stadium, although I think they will be happy with 25,000.
They are also not happy with the amount of corporate allocation that the MES redevelopment will involve.
Yes it will be great, but won't be what the Force or the WACA wants.
They are also not happy with the amount of corporate allocation that the MES redevelopment will involve.
Yes it will be great, but won't be what the Force or the WACA wants.
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any developments
Are there any further developments in the Force & WACA discussions?