Proposed WACA Redevelopment

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Nines wrote:
quidgybo wrote:Still listed for 2pm this Sunday as far as I can see.
Yeah , can't really be too concerned about how embarassing it looks .
I'd suggest it looks significantly less embarrassing to the average viewer than being hidden away at 1am. As a RL fan, I certainly know which I'd rather live with.

Leigh.

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Egan wrote:
big test matches
What happens with the normal test matches, the 5-10,000 facility becomes to small for the first 2 days of the test match?
Get those temporary stands in and increase the capacity to 15,000. Much like they do now.
Still I haven't seen anything mentioned about transport by the WACA administrators, have they not considered this in redeveloping it back to 30,000?
Good question.

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The Western Australian Cricket Association held its Annual General Meeting of Members last night at the WACA Ground.


WACA Members were provided with details of the Ascot Capital Limited/WACA joint venture redevelopment proposal that will ensure the WACA Ground remains the home of cricket in Western Australia and secures the financial stability of cricket in this State well into the future.

The proposed redevelopment will result in a stunning 30,000 seat stadium for international and domestic cricket, as well as residential, commercial, retail and entertainment opportunities.

WACA Chairman David Williams says an additional benefit of the master plan for the redevelopment of the WACA Ground was for additional uses besides being solely a cricket venue.

“There will be a ‘green belt' with Queens Gardens, the WACA Ground and Trinity College playing fields. We could see the WACA Ground being used as a ‘winter park' for the community, with activities such as coffee stands and jazz bands,” Mr Williams said.

“If our redevelopment is approved, we will basically have a clean piece of paper to work on in terms of what we build on the northern side of the WACA Ground, and it's pretty exciting for our Members.

“One would also expect that a redeveloped WACA Ground would fit the bill as a venue for other major community and sporting events.”

Members heard news of a further continuation of the turn around in the WACA finances after a bumper Ashes season.

The WACA posted a record operating surplus of $2,592,014 for the year, the second consecutive bottom line surplus for the Association.

But Mr Williams warned there would still be many challenges that lie ahead for the WACA over the next 12 months.

“Like a wise squirrel, it's time to put some acorns away for the winter because we enjoyed a one-off event in the last Ashes summer,” he said.

“We have to be conservative with our finances until we can see what lies ahead for us, not only with the redevelopment of the WACA Ground but also establishing our Centre of Cricket Excellence.”

Members also unanimously voted to award life memberships to former WA players Tim Zoehrer, Brendon Julian and Len Pavy.

Best known as one of the State's greatest wicket-keepers, Zoehrer represented Western Australia in 107 Sheffield Shield and 36 domestic one-day matches, as well as playing 10 Tests and 22 one-day internationals for Australia.

Julian played 87 Sheffield Shield and 54 domestic one-day matches for Western Australia, plus seven Tests and 25 one-day internationals for his country, as a dangerous left-arm swing bowler and hard-hitting lower-order batsman.

Pavy played seven first-class matches for WA from 1953-54 to 1955-56, and has been a prominent junior cricket administrator for over 50 years.

“Len has just retired from the Board, and he was playing Sheffield Shield cricket in the mid-1950s, so a 50-year span in cricket is an extraordinary achievement,” Mr Williams said.

“Tim was such a gifted all-round cricketer – a great bat, an accomplished wicket-keeper, and he was a useful leg-spinner as well, and it was great to see him get the recognition tonight.

“Brendon was such a relaxed and effortless all-round sportsman, and as an old Guildfordian I was delighted to see him recognised.

“In the 120-year history of the WACA there has only been 62 life memberships awarded, so with an average of one every two years, we don't give them away lightly.”

Finally, WACA Members strongly endorsed the latest round of WACA constitutional reform with the move to incorporation of the traditional Club Cricket Council.

In accordance with the WACA Constitution, 75% of eligible voters are required to be in favour of an alteration to the Constitution for it to be successful. After a secret ballot vote and the counting of proxy votes, the resolution was passed with 90% for the change and 10% against.

Mr Williams says the result is a further indication that Members were behind the Board's direction in moving to embrace the wider cricket family.

“What tonight's vote means is that the Club Cricket Council will remain relatively unchanged, except that they will come under the Incorporated Associations Act,” he said.

“It's pleasing that after a lot of time and a lot of debate the WACA District clubs wanted this themselves.

“We have affiliation with other cricket bodies, such as CricketWest and country cricket, and now we will have an affiliation agreement with the WACA District Clubs.”

The WACA Board would like to thank all Members who attended the Annual General Meeting for their on-going support.

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Heard from a WACA member that the development is still over 2 years away from happening. Typical

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May get some inside word now I am officially an employee of the WACA.

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I've quit the WACA...But geese another stadium redevelopment could be biting the dust with the new government :lol:

$285,000 profit is distorted by the fact they had a very competitive test series that resulted in huge crowds nearly every day. 250 million for 5000 more people...dunno whether its actually worth it now...

Election delays plans for new WACA Ground
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September 18, 2008 - 6:52PM

WACA bosses are cautiously optimistic plans to upgrade will be approved.

As the future of the proposed $1.1 billon outdoor stadium hangs in the balance, WA cricket bosses are anxiously waiting to hear about the future of their own $250 million plan to redevelop the WACA ground.
The future of the WACA plan will become clearer tomorrow, when the bosses of WA cricket meet with the East Perth Redevelopment Authority to discuss the project's progress following the ousting of Alan Carpenter's Labor government.

The plans, developed in partnership with Ascot Capital Limited, propose to turn the WACA into a 25,000 capacity cricket venue alongside two residential towers, two office blocks and a retail and entertainment precinct. (The capacity has gone down to 25,000 people...maybe the questioning of whether the surrounding streets could cope with 30,000 people as I suggested before. What I do want to question, why does the venue need such an extensive upgrade for 5000 people? For something that has so much risk and especially with the limited demand for the WACA's facilities.

But the WACA annual general meeting was told on Monday night that the hoped-for approval for the joint venture had been delayed by the outcome of the state election.

But WACA chairman David Williams remained optimistic about the prospects of the redevelopment going ahead.

"I am cautiously optimistic that our final submission will be approved in the next few months and then we will be able to take the proposal to WACA members for approval," Williams said.

"It is an exciting redevelopment that should secure cricket's future at the WACA ground for many years to come."

WACA chief executive Graeme Wood said he would be meeting with EPRA chief executive Tony Morgan tomorrow to get an idea of a new timeframe for the possibility of approval for the massive project

"There was a board meeting recently at EPRA and then it needed to go to the planning meeting, so obviously the election delayed the result and put us back a bit," Wood said.

"We are obviously waiting for confirmation from EPRA, we have not received that yet because of the hold up with the electoral process

"We will get an update on where we are at, and to find out what is happening and obviously the ministry has not been appointed yet.

"We are optimistically hoping we can get what we are after, to make it a viable proposition."

Also in doubt is $5 million the former state government promised the WACA towards the creation of a cricket academy at the University of Western Australia's Sports Park in Floreat, which was tied in with the redevelopment.

The WACA AGM heard that the once-struggling organisation now has cash at bank as of 30 June, 2008 of $14.1 million and recorded an operating surplus of $285,000 last year, despite a reduction in general distributions from Cricket Australia of $976,000.

"To operate as well as we have with such a huge reduction in distributions from Cricket Australia is a credit to the organisation and its team," Williams commented.

"We are well placed to have a successful year with some big matches at the WACA this summer including the Test Match versus South Africa, and two one day internationals against New Zealand and South Africa."

Another feature of the night was the unanimous decision of members to award honorary life membership of the WACA to former WA champion paceman Jo Angel, long term WACA cricket administrator Charles Fear and former state and national women's cricketer and administrator Coralie Towers.

Angel is best known as WA's leading wicket taker of all time and represented Western Australia in 105 Sheffield Shield/Pura Cup matches and 74 domestic one-day matches, as well as playing four tests and three one-day internationals.

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Zero chance of happening.

At best.

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WACA GROUND REDEVELOPMENT

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Homes, cafes in $550m revamp of the WACA
26th November 2008, 6:00 WST

A first glance of the multi-milliondollar WACA Ground redevelopment will be unveiled today.

The images, which coincide with the release of design guidelines for the overarching Riverside precinct plan, show how the WACA will be transformed by six residential and commercial towers of up to 20 storeys and an eight-storey northern grandstand.

The WACA will enter a partnership with Ascot Capital to build the project, which is valued conservatively at $550 million for the stand and three of the towers.

It will be put to members for approval in the New Year.

WACA chief executive Graeme Wood has said the WACA had to redevelop the ground if cricket was to remain at its historic East Perth HQ.

The State Government will today initiate a nine-week public comment period on planning scheme amendments for the Riverside precinct and The Link project in Northbridge.

The $880 million Riverside precinct plan sets out future development for a 40ha area at the eastern end of Perth’s CBD and incorporates the WACA Ground as well as plans for Gloucester Park and Trinity College.

It includes about 3400 dwellings for about 5800 people and plans for three 30 storey towers, 30,000sqm of commercial space for about 1700 workers, main street shopping and a “waterbank precinct” comprising cafes and restaurants around an artificial inlet.

The Link project will result in 1650 dwellings housing more than 3000 residents and provide for 244,000sqm of commercial and retail floor space and 4.5ha of public open space over 13.5ha.

Planning Minister John Day said yesterday the Riverside precinct and The Link were “critical regeneration projects that will deliver much needed social and economic benefits to the community” through more housing, jobs and office space.

He said current economic conditions may slow the projects but they were long-term visions.

Works and land sales for the waterbank precinct — the next phase of the Riverside project — would begin next year along with work on the Milligan Street precinct in Northbridge.

BEATRICE THOMAS EXCLUSIVE

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Wow you would be pissed if you has one of those apartments blocked by the video screen in the top drawing.

Looks good though.

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About as likely to happen as the 60k seat stadium getting built.

Be great to see it though.

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If only Perth could unite and build a stadium together! If they take this $550m apparently available for the WACA and then sell the land the WACA is on, with a little help from Govt (state and fed), AFL, FFA and ARU then the cost of the new stadium is basically covered! Then Australia can get the World Cup and stick it up everyone who thinks it will never happen!

I guess this is the problem with every stadium development (reluctance to move) but didn't the WACA agree in principle to the Multi-Purpose stadium?

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Cricket and AFL (sic) are resigned to going their separate ways. The WACA renovated itself out of hosting AFL games and the WAFC/AFL are in favour of preferential stadium deals the WACA would not concede. With all that in mind this WACA development is the best shot the WACA has for securing its future although I would've loved a Docklands style stadium next to the city for Perth.

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I can't believe Beatrice had this as an exclusive...

The plans have been on the table for 12 months. She has revealed nothing at all...
If they take this $550m apparently available for the WACA and then sell the land the WACA is on, with a little help from Govt (state and fed), AFL, FFA and ARU then the cost of the new stadium is basically covered! Then Australia can get the World Cup and stick it up everyone who thinks it will never happen!
You fail to see that the WACA ideology is purely historical, with little logic. Plus private capital is being used for the WACA, due to its riverside location and the fact the WACA can deliver the land to Ascot Capital to develop for free, with the proviso they spend money developing the ground.

If you look at why they redeveloped the WACA it was in its battle that it has played over the centuries of maintaining the WACA as the home of cricket. This desire is unflappable, governments, major stadia taskforce has been unable to take this desire away.


although I would've loved a Docklands style stadium next to the city for Perth
For a venue that has 3 events a year, concert and some state games :lol:

The WACA is lucky it can upgrade as it is, if they had of been given land in whoop whoop all those years ago, they would have already died...

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Egan wrote:
although I would've loved a Docklands style stadium next to the city for Perth
For a venue that has 3 events a year, concert and some state games :lol:
Ummm no. It's a wish list if they ever decided to ditch Subi, sort out their differences and have a combined venue. And by Docklands I don;'t mean have a roof. I mean an brand new oval ground really close to the city. No need for a roof. Hosts 22 AFL games per year plus pre season + finals. Hosts Tests, ODIs and T20s with Leederville hosting the Warriors.

Wishful thinking.

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Jeffles wrote:
Egan wrote:
although I would've loved a Docklands style stadium next to the city for Perth
For a venue that has 3 events a year, concert and some state games :lol:
Ummm no. It's a wish list if they ever decided to ditch Subi, sort out their differences and have a combined venue. And by Docklands I don;'t mean have a roof. I mean an brand new oval ground really close to the city. No need for a roof. Hosts 22 AFL games per year plus pre season + finals. Hosts Tests, ODIs and T20s with Leederville hosting the Warriors.

Wishful thinking.
Check the stadium task force report, East Perth or Burswood options.

The WACA looks like a good position on a map, but not really in reality because there's no public transport and no parking.

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Rob is correct, the WACA is a shocking location, in terms of traffic movements. Which is probably why they revised capacity down to 25,000 from 30,000.
It's a wish list if they ever decided to ditch Subi, sort out their differences and have a combined venue.
You will find its not even about any issue with Subiaco, both the WAFC and WACA want control, want to maintain their respective histories. Cricket in WA is manifested by the WACA, the history of cricket in WA, is reflected within its ground. The WACA unlike SACA know that they will be a ground just for cricket, as it is in England.

In terms of demands to watch cricket, 25,000 is no doubt a capacity that will cater for future growth, while not being to big.

Even if you did get a major 60,000 seat stadium...the WACA have said no too many times to moving from their location, its etched into stone. And their desire to maintain the venue is cemented.

Any CEO that goes against this premise, will probably alienate the members and be dismissed instantly by the board. It is engrained within the culture of the WACA, to maintain independence.

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