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Re: Politics 08
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:54 am
by Simmo79
Obama at 90.9% chance of victory according to
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/ Also predicted to end up 313 in the electoral college.
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:28 am
by bazza
Looks like this one is no more...
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:17 pm
by yob
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:58 pm
by Simmo79
Who is Australia's Nate Silver?
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:44 am
by gyfox
Love the headline in the Daily Telegraph this morning:- "Old Macdonald had a farm I.C.A.C. Oh"
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:54 am
by Egan
Is Tony Abbott the worst Prime Minister In Australia's history?
Discuss
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:56 am
by Simmo79
Can't comment. It's an operational matter.
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:25 am
by yob
Nope.
There's a sustained effort on social media at characterising him as such. Started on day 1. Very vocal minority, and all it does is show the character of the belligerents.
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:03 am
by dibo
He's not the worst ever (not sure who is, FWIW), but he's showing that as Prime Minister he makes a very good Opposition Leader.
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:00 pm
by yob
dibo wrote:He's not the worst ever (not sure who is, FWIW), but he's showing that as Prime Minister he makes a very good Opposition Leader.
Context is a big factor. You could clearly nominate Gillard as the worst, however nobody looks pretty in the spectre of a hung parliament.
You could nominate PMs deposed by their own parties mid term, as it's a pretty firm measure of leadership.
Whitlam would get a nomination for getting fired so well that the constitution got dragged in to the sh*t fest.
You could go far back to war time PMs, and again it would be highly contextual. How badly do you judge PMs who leveraged our security to a "super" power proven piss weak a matter of years later?
The more you probe the question the more you understand you can't compare.
Fuckit, Edmond Barton. On the basis that it was all new and sh*t.
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:03 pm
by yob
Btw, I strongly suggest the critics follow the example of our opposition in showing bipartisan support for Abbott/Bishop in pursuing Russia over MH17. Lest you consign yourself to some marxist lunatic fringe that embarrasses civilization.
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:01 pm
by Egan
He's certainly had his best moments with the current disaster, but most leaders do.
And Simmo, don't blame you with the Australian public service's clamp down on dissent.
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:59 am
by Simmo79
Egan wrote:
And Simmo, don't blame you with the Australian public service's clamp down on dissent.
That's been overblown. It was a draft doc that would only have applied to PM&C staff. AFAIK it's been killed off
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:33 pm
by Egan
What are you're views on Bill Shorten?
I'm not sure if he's more or less sound bite orientated than Abbott.
Re: Politics 08
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 4:00 pm
by the crow
Hate SScott MoriSSon, I bet he wished he lived in hitlers time, exporting people out of your country was so much easier then.