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Obama at 90.9% chance of victory according to http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/ Also predicted to end up 313 in the electoral college.

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Jeffles wrote:I only recently got told of this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redskins_Rule
Looks like this one is no more...

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:popcorn:

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Who is Australia's Nate Silver?

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Love the headline in the Daily Telegraph this morning:- "Old Macdonald had a farm I.C.A.C. Oh"

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Is Tony Abbott the worst Prime Minister In Australia's history?

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Can't comment. It's an operational matter.

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Nope.

There's a sustained effort on social media at characterising him as such. Started on day 1. Very vocal minority, and all it does is show the character of the belligerents.

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He's not the worst ever (not sure who is, FWIW), but he's showing that as Prime Minister he makes a very good Opposition Leader.

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dibo wrote:He's not the worst ever (not sure who is, FWIW), but he's showing that as Prime Minister he makes a very good Opposition Leader.
Context is a big factor. You could clearly nominate Gillard as the worst, however nobody looks pretty in the spectre of a hung parliament.

You could nominate PMs deposed by their own parties mid term, as it's a pretty firm measure of leadership.

Whitlam would get a nomination for getting fired so well that the constitution got dragged in to the sh*t fest.

You could go far back to war time PMs, and again it would be highly contextual. How badly do you judge PMs who leveraged our security to a "super" power proven piss weak a matter of years later?

The more you probe the question the more you understand you can't compare.

Fuckit, Edmond Barton. On the basis that it was all new and sh*t.

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Btw, I strongly suggest the critics follow the example of our opposition in showing bipartisan support for Abbott/Bishop in pursuing Russia over MH17. Lest you consign yourself to some marxist lunatic fringe that embarrasses civilization.

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He's certainly had his best moments with the current disaster, but most leaders do.

And Simmo, don't blame you with the Australian public service's clamp down on dissent.

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Egan wrote: And Simmo, don't blame you with the Australian public service's clamp down on dissent.
That's been overblown. It was a draft doc that would only have applied to PM&C staff. AFAIK it's been killed off

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What are you're views on Bill Shorten?

I'm not sure if he's more or less sound bite orientated than Abbott.

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Hate SScott MoriSSon, I bet he wished he lived in hitlers time, exporting people out of your country was so much easier then.

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