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Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:37 pm
by yob
Wow. Mark Thompson playing a foolish game.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-04/n ... k-thompson
ESSENDON coach Mark Thompson insists his players aren't facing health risks over the club's 2012 supplements program, despite revelations the AFL was monitoring them over fears of cancer and hormonal problems.

Thompson said on Friday the Essendon players had been extensively briefed by club officials regarding the supplements given to them.

"I think it's OK. The players have been communicated to by specialists and the drugs, the supplements that we have given the players, they know that they're not harmful," Thompson told reporters.

"There's no risk. One actually helps in part of the treatment for cancer.

"So we haven't got a problem there at all as far as our communication and our players' awareness of what's healthy and what's not."
All of a sudden Essendon knows what was given to its players.

And Mark Thompson is dispensing medical opinion.


With the number of inconsistent statements being made by Essendon club, officials, players, I think we're at the flow chart stage.

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:55 pm
by yob
Obligatory bigfooty quote:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/c ... t-33871405
Thats a relief. The Bombers have actually been protecting their players against cancer by giving them these drugs. I think a few apologies are in order...

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:13 pm
by Simmo79
These people are terrifying. Utterly, utterly negligent with the health and wellbeing of their employees. Soooo many lawsuits are gonna happen.

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:19 pm
by Simmo79
yob wrote:Looking a bit too far in to it to be honest. It's confirmation bias - everything that suits the club is blasted in to the public domain with a howitzer.
It kind of does. People who pay attention can blast it with a howitzer in their own mind, but plenty of people will see only a bit of BS and assume there's a witchhunt against poor old James.
What he have though is Essendon's pure, uncut Colombian-grade bullshit being given equal weighting to the reasonable and damning case against them. That's totally fair in court when a pretty smart person will stand above it all and pass judgment. But the in media and the public arena where there's no authority to make a call on the truthfulness of a situation, Essendon get to keep lying and weaseling away from their just desserts. As long as they have mates at the Hun looking after them anyway.

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:20 pm
by yob
It's like the narcissism that took a hold of their brains has them convinced they're invincible down to a cellular level.
nucleus wrote:Cancer? Cancer? I most certainly will NOT grow in to a cancer. Do you have any idea who I am?!
mitochondrion wrote:But
cell membrane wrote:SHUT UP WOMAN.

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:28 pm
by Simmo79
Simmo79 wrote:Full video of the AFL's Chief Medical Officer explaining the doping investigation to an international forum in Zurich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5dlqJPWBwk
above vid has been made private

This copy works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMgTI6O ... r_embedded

Dons summary starts at about 10min. After watching it it's pretty hard to see what Essendon is whining about given what's laid out about their conduct (all of it old, but in one summary is damning)

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:33 pm
by yob
As of yesterday, this is what is being communicated directly to club members, hereafter referred to as muppets.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014- ... to-members

Dear members and supporters,

We are very concerned about comments made by the AFL’s head medical executive Dr Harcourt, at a conference in November last year.

It is regrettable that Dr Harcourt chose to engage in irresponsible speculation about the health of our players at an international conference, without talking to the Club and its players.

Independent medical experts have provided information and feedback on the supplements issued to players, and given the club a high level of comfort regarding the short and long term health of our players.

Dr Harcourt’s presentation raises many important questions including whether or not he breached confidentiality? If he had the authority to make the presentation? And if not, what action will the AFL take?

Dr Harcourt also suggests our players ‘passively’ accepted the use of supplements – this statement is offensive - our players took considerable steps in this regard.

They insisted on being provided with informed consent
They insisted on the club doctor approving all supplements
And they insisted on all supplements being approved by WADA

In 2012 and 2013, we conducted comprehensive medical evaluations of our players and we continue to provide ongoing monitoring.

We will continue to put the health and welfare of our players first.

Paul Little

Chairman - Essendon Football Club

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:41 pm
by yob
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-24/b ... um-on-hird

Bombers are umming and ahhing over whether James Hird will return this season when his ban lifts next month. This is interesting, because they're paying him to be the coach, after having extended his contract, after the club has been sanctioned by the AFL. Maybe the club's management just thinks paying a million per year of members' funds, aka general revenue, for nothing is just the cost of doing business?

Don the sash!

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:24 pm
by yob
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-25/n ... e-for-hird

Confirmed. Essendon's members are paying for more holidays.

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:45 pm
by Boba Fett
So the head drug cheat thinks coming back this season will be a distraction? Correct, but he's got rocks in his head if he thinks it will be any different next year.

The sooner the club rids itself of everyone connected to the scandal the better off it will be.

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:03 pm
by yob

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:08 pm
by gyfox
Stunning documents released in the Federal Court on Friday allege the AFL all but knew Essendon was the club being investigated by the Australian Crime Commission last year.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a ... z39nWMxG70

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:51 pm
by yob
The world's about as stunned by that news as Thorpie being gay.

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:27 am
by yob
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/a ... 7018619193
By the start of winter, sports minister Kate Lundy was feeling the heat from a partyroom fretting over an increasingly unwinnable election, and AFL deputy chief executive Gillon McLachlan was worried about the impact of the scandal on ticket sales for that season’s finals.

At a meeting in Canberra on June 4, Lundy’s departmental deputy secretary Glenys Beauchamp delivered ASADA officials instructions from the minister. According to notes taken by Elen Perdikogiannis, ASADA’s general manager of anti-doping programs and legal services, Beauchamp told them: “Min — her colleagues at her, or accusing her of hampering chances of re-election — you need an outcome.’’
:lol:

Re: The ACC nukes Australian sport

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:03 pm
by Simmo79
yikes