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Re: Brazil 2014 Stadiums

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:50 pm
by yob
Discovery Channel is running a series on the world cup stadiums. Currently watching the Maracana episode. Interesting stuff how they have redeveloped the stadium, albeit not very much of the old structure was actually retained.

Overall I'm happy I never watched football there prior to its redevelopment - because the concrete roof was absolutely f***ed.

Re: Brazil 2014 Stadiums

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 9:24 am
by Simmo79
Falling apart f***ed?

Re: Brazil 2014 Stadiums

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 11:38 am
by IanRitchie
Simmo79 wrote:Falling apart f***ed?
potential national tragedy f***ed

Re: Brazil 2014 Stadiums

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 5:56 pm
by yob
IanRitchie wrote:
Simmo79 wrote:Falling apart f***ed?
potential national tragedy f***ed
This.

The roof structure had to be expanded to increase spectator coverage from 40% to 95%+. Plan A was to secure a tarp roof to the existing reinforced concrete roof. When they stripped back they essentially discovered not only would the roof not support the extra weight, it was a miracle it was still standing.

I'm filling in a few gaps with my own from here. The reinforced concrete is essentially designed that the steel inside the concrete provides its flexing strength, which concrete has f**k all of. It would last forever if you kept it dry, which it wasn't. As the water penetrates the concrete and gets to the steel it causes it to rust inside. The two big problems there is the flexing strength is lost, but also the metal expands when it rusts which causes the concrete to crack. So, combine 1) concrete roof that weighs thousands of tonnes, 2) No flexing strength, 3) cracking 4) 80,000 people underneath who rock so hard that they caused the Gabba to wobble during the Olympics.

Not going there = bullet dodged.

All good now, it's just a bed sheet hanging over the top, and only the upper bowl and supporting floors were retained, the lower bowl is new.

Also just quietly, f**k the Maracana and the completed Waverley design look similar.

Re: Brazil 2014 Stadiums

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 7:35 pm
by Simmo79
Jesus they got lucky.

Re: Brazil 2014 Stadiums

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:27 am
by IanRitchie
The locals can rightly protest a lot about the world cup, but I'd say the price to redo this stadium prooooobably was a wash at worst.

Re: Brazil 2014 Stadiums

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 2:59 pm
by yob
Far cheaper to demolish or build new on a greenfield. However the stadium was protected in legislation as a site of national significance. Why you'd want to preserve a building you lost to Uruguay in is beyond me.

Re: Brazil 2014 Stadiums

Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 12:23 pm
by gyfox
Some aerial shots of the World Cup stadiums.

http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/fifa ... 38091.html

Re: Brazil 2014 Stadiums

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:10 pm
by gyfox
Ten days to go to its first game and the stadium in Curitiba is still not finished.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/06/world-cup ... h-4752504/

Re: Brazil 2014 Stadiums

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:03 pm
by Simmo79
So has anyone watched 'This is Brazil' in SBS? The lass Fernanda who presents it is a damn fox

Re: Brazil 2014 Stadiums

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:26 pm
by Egan
*Waiting patiently for flamewar from Stadium Nerds in Brazil.