Australain Football stadiums overseas

dibo · Post by **dibo** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:18 am

fishmonger wrote:
dibo wrote:
the crow wrote:Holding cricket or AFL in the USA is like holding Soccer in the USA... pointless......a very long term plan

http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/344 ... _Riot.html

half back passes to the center...back to the wing, back to the center

...holds it.....holds it............holds it!
...except there are a fair few people who actually care a bit about soccer over there. crowd averages over 15k.
Except that only 1% are American. Apart from the occasional Beckham celebrity fan at the LA Galaxy (ie. Tom Cruise), most of them are poms, mexicans and mediterranean migrants.

The same way that many of the Western Force fans are either South African or Kiwis.

averaging 15k in only expats ain't bad (or plausible, but who needs to go there...), how many people watch aussie rules over there, expat or otherwise?

Egan · Post by **Egan** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:34 pm

fishmonger wrote:
The same way that many of the Western Force fans are either South African or Kiwis.

Actually come to a Force game...

Nines · Post by **Nines** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:00 pm

Nines wrote:
Well you are going to have AFL matches there -
preseason games initially , but there are talks about holding
AFL premiership games around the world so Florida could be a contender .
The USAFL National Championships are deffinately going to be held there .
You'll have the Florida tradional 18-a-side teams playing there as well
as the Fort Lauderdale Metro League .

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Interesting to see that Kevin Sheedy has called for a stadium
similar to Fort lauderdale's to be built in L.A.

dibo · Post by **dibo** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:21 pm

Nines wrote:
Nines wrote:
Well you are going to have AFL matches there -
preseason games initially , but there are talks about holding
AFL premiership games around the world so Florida could be a contender .
The USAFL National Championships are deffinately going to be held there .
You'll have the Florida tradional 18-a-side teams playing there as well
as the Fort Lauderdale Metro League .

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Interesting to see that Kevin Sheedy has called for a stadium
similar to Fort lauderdale's to be built in L.A.

source?

and still wondering:

dibo wrote:how many people watch aussie rules over there, expat or otherwise?

IanRitchie · Post by **IanRitchie** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:46 am

dibo wrote:
Nines wrote:
Nines wrote: Interesting to see that Kevin Sheedy has called for a stadium
similar to Fort lauderdale's to be built in L.A.

source?

http://www.hopelesslyoptimistic.com/articles/usafl.html

Nines · Post by **Nines** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:40 pm

dibo wrote:
source?

Herald Sun

So what do you think the future holds for the AFL?

The Australian Government and AFL should invest in a Californian ground. You've got about 40 million people and it will probably take 10 hours to fly there one day. It's nothing. The next Australian type person lives in Vancouver, San Francisco and Los Angeles. And that's where I see gold. 2025 . . we've got to be planning for it now and eventually have a team over there. Why not move the game off-shore? I think they will within five years.

If we can get an icon game like Anzac Day and the Dreamtime game and get $500,000, what's wrong with going overseas and getting a $1 million if it was available. You're only taking two hours off the fans in Australia for one match that might keep the club financially alive.

Already you've got a ground built in Fort Lauderdale. We can really build local footy with 40 teams already in America.

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dibo · Post by **dibo** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:17 pm

missed this bit

dibo wrote:and still wondering:

dibo wrote:how many people watch aussie rules over there, expat or otherwise?

and otherwise - it's all summed up here:

We can really build local footy with 40 teams already in America.

wow! 40 teams!

and I'm guessing that's nines, but even if it's eighteens and to stretch the bounds of plausibility let's assume each team is based on a squad of 40, you've got a maximum of 1600 people playing in the whole USA.

whoopty frickin doo in other words.

Nines · Post by **Nines** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:20 am

dibo wrote:
We can really build local footy with 40 teams already in America.
wow! 40 teams!

Yes , 40 stand alone teams in the USAFL or as we call them clubs .
Each club has a traditional 18-a-side team that competes in mainly interstate leagues , tournaments and the national championships .
Most clubs these days run a Metro league of about 4 to six teams ..
Then there's all the other Australian Football e.g college teams , womens football , junior football , Oztag , and touch football .

If you seriously want to find out how many Americans play Australian Football just go to the site , because they did a census and broke it down into neat groups .

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dibo · Post by **dibo** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:32 pm

so we're maybe talking 10k max... woo... hooo...

ah, on the usfooty site i find that one of their aims is: To have 10,000 US participants in 10 years.

so they're looking to have enough people to make 2/3 of an MLS crowd playing the game in 10 years. huge sport that.

still missed this bit

dibo wrote:how many people watch aussie rules over there, expat or otherwise?

Jeffles · Post by **Jeffles** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:42 pm

Anyone remember russ13?

Nines · Post by **Nines** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:38 pm

dibo wrote: so we're maybe talking 10k max

Playing the game - participation rates - you know .

Very roughly the particapation rates for Australian Football in Australia are
60k for WA , SA , QLD and NSW , 30k for Tas and lower for NT .
So if you're comparing participation rates O/S then the potential is there . Already you have to Americans playing in the WAFL .
Not long soon that some maybe AFL standard .
That's what grabs the AFL . For me it's just great to see people from other countries playing our great Australian game .

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Nines · Post by **Nines** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:41 pm

dibo wrote:
how many people watch aussie rules over there, expat or otherwise

The biggest crowds to watch USAFL players were 12~15k .

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IanRitchie · Post by **IanRitchie** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:21 pm

Mate, just FYI, but K=1000.

Nines · Post by **Nines** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:38 pm

IanRitchie wrote:Mate, just FYI, but K=1000.

The biggest crowds to watch USAFL players were 12000~15000

happy ?

Egan · Post by **Egan** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:46 pm

Do you have photos Nines?

Be great to see if you do.