Is there a future for ANZ Stadium?

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Good idea if the demand is there to have 1 derby at Stadium Australia. But I agree with Boba they should schedule the derby there early in the season.

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jowel wrote:ANZ is indeed crap. Fits everyone, suits no one.

In order to improve the rake and bring all the seats in to make a decent rectangular stadium, could consideration be made towards digging down, lowering the playing field somewhat? Then reconstruct the entire concourse.

Similar to the city of Manchester stadium post commonwealth games.

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This is the only way to salvage the stadium from a rectangular sport perspective. There is nothing wrong with the upper decks in terms of position other than the fact it is a super stadium and so the top deck spectators end up a long way away from the action. But the real problem is the lower bowl and the level of the playing field. The rake of the lower bowl is too shallow and the fences are too far away from the sidelines. The fact you can actually see the lower deck from the top deck when in rectangular configuration is a major symptom of the issue.

To turn the venue into a true rectangular stadium does not require nuking it from orbit but does require major surgery. Step one, demolish the entire lower bowl, including the moveable seating, oval ends and the additional tier at the northern end. Step, two, lower the playing surface until the sideline of a Rugby League or Soccer field can just be seen comfortably from a normal seated position in the upper decks but with no more than three metres of grass visible beyond that on the near side.

In the giant hole created by the above work, build a replica of a good rectangular stadium layout minus the roof - something between AAMI Park and Suncorp Stadium in size. The lower bowl should be about 12,000 in capacity with the distance between the fence and the sideline of rectangular sports set at the legal minimum. Above this should be a second tier bowl, also rectangular, seating another 12,000-18,000 depending on the space available. All new tiers would be raked appropriate for optimizing sight lines for rectangular sports. If necessary a third rectangular tier would be built above this, sized to reach the bottom of the existing Upper tiers.

So you'd end up with a stadium with two or three lower tiers, closely hugging all four sides of a rectangular field with sight lines designed to be best in class for soccer and Rugby League. Opening between one and three of these bottom tiers would enable the stadium capacity to scale to the needs of the event while keeping crowds close to the action and tightly packed, preserving atmosphere. Above the two wings you would have the existing middle and upper deck tiers of the stadium allowing for a full capacity probably well in excess of the current 83,000.

Leigh.

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The new Swans' deal with the SCG is 30 years for all regular season matches, with finals yet to be confirmed (subject to AFL approval).

This pretty much opens the question whether the new ends need be retractable at all, or rather just built with a square boundary and be done with it.

Of course with this money sinking piece of sh*t 30 years could be another 3 redevelopments to rearrange the Titanic's deck chairs.

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gyfox wrote:The good of the Wanderers' brand and the good of football aren't necessarily the same thing. The FFA is charged with running the code for the good of the code and that often will require decisions that negatively affect an individual club. Expansion is one time that this is likely to happen.
Like when they signed up for the govt anti-alcohol message just after AU had signed Coopers as front of kit sponsor:(

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yob wrote:The new Swans' deal with the SCG is 30 years for all regular season matches, with finals yet to be confirmed (subject to AFL approval).
This pretty much opens the question whether the new ends need be retractable at all, or rather just built with a square boundary and be done with it.

Of course with this money sinking piece of sh*t 30 years could be another 3 redevelopments to rearrange the Titanic's deck chairs.
Is it me or do the AFL have an unnatural amount of power in a state where their game is a niche sport? ANZ is only the POS jack of all trades that it is because the AFL tipped in a few dollars to ensure ANZ remained capable of accomodating an AFL Oval.

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Adelaide_United_Red wrote: Is it me or do the AFL have an unnatural amount of power in a state where their game is a niche sport?
No it's not just you. I think the two points we can all agree on are:

1) f**k the pricks lobbying our government against our own interests

2) Are said pricks looking for a job? We'll take them.

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ANZ said to be likely to get $200m from the Government for modernisation.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/o ... 7162422005

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It seems as though ANZ Stadium's wet weather policy allows, if necessary, some people on the 6th deck during rugby league games. Tonight's crowd for the Dogs vs Eels game: 28,876. How many for Sunday arvo?

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So that's where ANZ stadium's turf went

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Swans have negotiated an early exit from ANZ. AFL at the ground is no more.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/sydney-swa ... n6h1f.html

Now we can return the focus to actually improving the ground for its tenants with full rectangularisation.

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Nah mate, Sydney Funda need it for the Big Bash.

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Still the potential for AFL finals games at the venue. That contract expires at the end of 2016.
Sydney Thunder play their Big Bash games next door at Spotless Stadium.

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dibo wrote:Nah mate, Sydney Funda need it for the Big Bash.
I thought they liked it at Skoda stadium.

Random fact. škoda is a czech car manufacturer. the word škoda means "pity" as in "je to škoda" .... "that's a pity..."

Pity Stadium has a nice ring to it.

Alas, now it's called "underpaid afghan migrant cleaner stadium"

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There are two proposed redevelopment designs for ANZ Stadium.
The first one,many of us has seen with retractable end stands and retractable roof,suitable for AFL and Cricket.
The second design is for a permanant rectangle configuration.It includes the lowering of the field,improving the rake and a permanent rectangle configuration.Level 6 cannot change(23,000 seats) but with a new capacity of 90,000,67,000 seats will be closer to the playing field than previously.
With the Swans departure and Cricket happy with the SCG,there is no need for retractable stands and we will probably see the NSW govt offer its Stadium funding to ANZ.
ANZ Stadium has released its Autumn newsletter online and its the first time I have seen a render of this permanant configuration.
Similar to the development of the City of Manchester Stadium,its what the Stadium shouldve looked like back in 2002(without the influence of the AFL)

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