Is there a future for ANZ Stadium?

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yob wrote:f**k me f***ing dead with something f***ed in the head how many f***ing times do they f***ing want to f***ing rebuild this f***ing piece of f***ing sh*t
The redevelopment they're talking about now is the redevelopment they *should* have done in 2002. We'd still have a compromised venue, but it would be less compromised than present and there'd be less pressure to fix it in a hurry now.

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What's worse is that the same problems will exist as with the wings - the end stands must stay retracted to allow oval turf to grow. Therefore the need to move the stands in for all rectangular sports leaves two outcomes - either increased costs for rectangular codes, or the damned things not being used, despite the taxpayer having bought them. The AFL must be loving that free kick they'll get, even if they stop hosting games there entirely.

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dibo wrote:The ends were moved 10-15m in when they took the track out. You can't fit a track in there anymore.
The stands were moved in 18m from memory and that includes the sides in un-retracted mode.
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How about this idea for an alternative, I reckon the bureaucrats who crowd the corporate boxes once a year during origin would love it.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/71072750@N00/2605123913/

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yob wrote:What's worse is that the same problems will exist as with the wings - the end stands must stay retracted to allow oval turf to grow. Therefore the need to move the stands in for all rectangular sports leaves two outcomes - either increased costs for rectangular codes, or the damned things not being used, despite the taxpayer having bought them. The AFL must be loving that free kick they'll get, even if they stop hosting games there entirely.
My understanding is that there is no extra costs for the hirer for moving the side stands now so why should there be if the end stands become moveable. It takes hours not days like Etihad. The process is quite simple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mbBJlFp6q0

If I read the blurb correctly the new proposal brings the side stands further in using a new process that reduces the damage to the turf.

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yob wrote:
Spirit of Santos wrote:Really, it's a great large capacity stadium in the exact geographic location in Sydney that it should be. The sightlines are excellent, even from the dreaded ends. Anyone watch Aus v Japan tonight? The ground had a permanent running track around it.
Stadium Australia had an athletics track around it. Same distance from the action. Ripping up the track doesn't magically drag the seats in.
With respect yob, if someone such as yourself who is interested in sport and stadiums actually thinks this is the case - then it just goes to prove my point about the gross exaggeration of ANZ Stadium's faults. These falsehoods and exaggeration have been peddled for so long that they are now unthinkingly accepted as reality.

The design of Stadium Australia for the Olympics and it's transformation after the games is actually one of the best of any main Olympic Stadium in modern history. The only f**k-up in an otherwise well thought out plan was the inexplicable decision to alter the original plans for a full transformation into a rectangular ground. This was as at the urging of the AFL who paid a piddling 3 million dollars to secure this sabotaging change. :oops:

Stadium Australia Olympics configuration:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... tadium.jpg

Stadium Australia post Olympics:

http://thoughtsofanidlemind.files.wordp ... tadium.jpg

To compare it with other Olympic stadiums post games, before and after shots are not required... because the grounds are the same now as they were during the Olympics. Running tracks an all.

This the much vaunted Beijing stadium 2008 post Olympics:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 2014_2.jpg

Athens 2004 main stadium post Olympics:

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/88816687.jpg

Barcelona 1994 Main Stadium post Olympics:

http://images.travelpod.com/tripwow/pho ... w-4539.jpg

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Just goes to show a decent stadium isn't part of the lasting legacy of hosting an Olympics.

I'll tell you one "unthinking" insight on reality. Once you've watched football at Hindmarsh, you don't settle for sh*t.

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well i'm pissed that they aren't fixing access to the 6th tier and the sight lines there

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yob wrote:Just goes to show a decent stadium isn't part of the lasting legacy of hosting an Olympics.

I'll tell you one "unthinking" insight on reality. Once you've watched football at Hindmarsh, you don't settle for sh*t.
Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense - comparing an 83,500 seat stadium with a suburban ground with 15,500 seats. :roll:

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Boba Fett wrote:
yob wrote:Just goes to show a decent stadium isn't part of the lasting legacy of hosting an Olympics.

I'll tell you one "unthinking" insight on reality. Once you've watched football at Hindmarsh, you don't settle for sh*t.
Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense - comparing an 83,500 seat stadium with a suburban ground with 15,500 seats. :roll:
You don't know how to compare the match day experience of two grounds hosting the same sport? Yikes.

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yob wrote:
Boba Fett wrote:
yob wrote:Just goes to show a decent stadium isn't part of the lasting legacy of hosting an Olympics.

I'll tell you one "unthinking" insight on reality. Once you've watched football at Hindmarsh, you don't settle for sh*t.
Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense - comparing an 83,500 seat stadium with a suburban ground with 15,500 seats. :roll:
You don't know how to compare the match day experience of two grounds hosting the same sport? Yikes.
You got one thing right - your 'unthinking' description of yourself.

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Eh, different strokes for different boats.

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It's happening! - Swans leaving SOZ.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-24/s ... t-homebush

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yob wrote:It's happening! - Swans leaving SOZ.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-24/s ... t-homebush
Great news!

And also means the whole 'moveable stands' part of the much ballyhooed redevelopment is completely unnecessary. Which I would have thought would knock a big chunk off the cost.

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Boba Fett wrote:
yob wrote:It's happening! - Swans leaving SOZ.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-24/s ... t-homebush
Great news!

And also means the whole 'moveable stands' part of the much ballyhooed redevelopment is completely unnecessary. Which I would have thought would knock a big chunk off the cost.
Maybe cricket will shorten itself to 5 overs and we'll suddenly need the 80,000 seats again.

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