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Yeah, I am just interested to see what happens. Whether rent becomes more unaffordable for a club like Perth Glory in a spanking brand new stadium.

Hopefully by then they have a sustainable business model. Its only taken 14 years or so...

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Stadium plans leave World Cup bid in danger
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July 28, 2009 - 9:19AM

The plan to completely rebuild Member's Equity Stadium will still leave Perth in danger of missing out on staging any games if Australia's bid to host soccer's World Cup is successful.

Staged upgrade plans will be officially unveiled some time next year, with the intention to reshape the former Perth Oval based on Skilled Park on the Gold Coast, which houses 27,400 spectators.

With Town of Vincent mayor Nick Catania boldly predicting a 2012 finish date - if they are given the construction - planning with the council which owns the land freehold will take at least a year.

However, Sports Minister Terry Waldron said costs and timelines for the proposal would not be confirmed until the middle of next year.

He acknowledged the Government's plans will not solve WA's lack of a major arena to host soccer internationals - with the FFA looking to make a decision on potential World Cup venues by the end of this year.

The Government is still eyeing Subiaco Oval as a potential host of World Cup matches.

"This stadium is going to be designed to meet the requirements of our State, our competitions, the state provincial competitions, Super 14 and the A-League," Mr Waldron said.

"With the World Cup, you are talking 2018 and 2022. There are other options including a greenfield site, and if we couldn’t work through the issues with this stadium we would have to look at that.

"There is Subiaco Oval which will always be used to host the bigger games, Test matches and those with crowds of 25,000-plus people.

"We have been talking to the football commission, and in the next two to three weeks they will be coming to us with a proposal.

"To meet the requirements of the World Cup I think Subiaco Oval could be the best answer."

The decision on Australia's bid for either the 2018 and 2022 World Cups will be made in December 2010, with Australia having to show a minimum of 12 stadiums, two of which must hold 80,000 fans and 10 with a minimum capacity of 45,000.

Opposition sports spokesman Ken Travers said this should be addressed urgently by the Government.

"I welcome trying to address the stadia in this state but this announcement is just another unfunded thought bubble," Mr Travers said.

"The Government does not have plans for stadia in WA, and have come up with an idea without funding and no lack of any detail.

The Government also needs to address the issue of Australia's world cup bid and Perth's place in it.

Mr Catania, who along with the Town of Vincent had been awaiting a decision its own $73 million proposal for improvements to Members Equity, admitted he had been "pleasantly surprised" by the Government announcement over the weekend.

With a year of planning details now to be thrashed out, Mr Catania flagged the authority's intention to push for control over construction, rather than the State Government.

"We were very pleasantly surprised at the extent of the plans," Mr Catania said.

"The Government well advised to give us that responsibility because we do it better, we know the oval, we are better negotiators in getting the best bang for our dollar.

"We are better at it than the Department of Sport and Recreation would be, they are sports people they are not builder, they do not know the oval like we do, and they don't know what services and how to use them.

"We will build it, and if that is the case the timeline will be shorter as well … we could deliver it by late 2012."


i want the new Kitchener Park Multi-Purpose Stadium not Subiaco Oval. and don't let the town of Vincent build the rectangle stadium, that would be a catastrophe, going off anything they have attempted previously.


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"To meet the requirements of the World Cup I think Subiaco Oval could be the best answer."

They just dont f*cking get it, do they?

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My god.

Have they even read the bid guidelines?


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They just dont f*cking get it, do they?
One has to wonder about the quality of their political advisers. Doesn't anyone in the Ministers office or the Minister himself know how to read or take advice from people who know.

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Ok reject my optimism.

Perth still has no f***ing clue when it comes to stadiums.

Sorry Ian, Perth beats Auckland hands down in terms of cities with no idea about stadiums.

Subiaco Oval

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Someone needs to tell the Minister that the world moved irreversibly to purpose designed rectangular pitch football stadiums in 1887 with the construction of Ibrox Park and continued that move with the construction of Goodison Park in 1892. The Minister can choose to be a 19th century troglodyte if he wants and try to mix sports at venues that don't suit but if he does he will ensure that his state is bypassed by all sport that matters internationally. Have you heard the rumour that his next project is to site the table tennis table in the middle of Burswood centre court? Neither have I but the logic is the same.

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The comedy that is the Perth stadium saga continues.

100 bucks that by the end of next year nothing will have changed.


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Rob wrote:
The comedy that is the Perth stadium saga continues.

100 bucks that by the end of next year nothing will have changed.
What are the odds on the minister changing?

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The comedy that is the Perth stadium saga continues.

100 bucks that by the end of next year nothing will have changed.
What are the odds on the minister changing?


None, as I said before the lack of respect to sport in this government is shown by the Minister being a Nationals representative not a Liberal member...

Subiaco Oval - World Cup

Like the FFA will put that in the World Cup bid book :lol: :lol: :lol:

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None, as I said before the lack of respect to sport in this government is shown by the Minister being a Nationals representative not a Liberal member...
Change my comment 18th century troglodyte. :)

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The fact there are government ministers wanting to patch up a venue like Subiaco Oval is ridiculous...

Waldron is a man from Narrogin. Only sport out that way is Hockey and Aussie Rules.

Kucera, surprise surprise was a Soccer/Rugby head when MES was built and he was a sports minister. He also was instrumental in twisting Gallop's arms.

Since than they are ALF noobs with no idea or reality of what they need to do for the World Cup. Unless they are drastically altering Subiaco Oval in the plans to be released in a few weeks...

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Since than they are ALF noobs with no idea or reality of what they need to do for the World Cup. Unless they are drastically altering Subiaco Oval in the plans to be released in a few weeks...
Nothing short of a morphing bottom bowl could make Subiaco suitable and even then it is a compromise that really is a waste of money.

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WA Today need to get Buckley's thoughts on the worst AFL stadium in the competition :lol:

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Since than they are ALF noobs with no idea or reality of what they need to do for the World Cup. Unless they are drastically altering Subiaco Oval in the plans to be released in a few weeks...
Nothing short of a morphing bottom bowl could make Subiaco suitable and even then it is a compromise that really is a waste of money.


What we really need is a subiaco stadium that can morph from football stadium to afl stadium, to 80 metre tall xenomorph that can attack the planes in a red bull air race. It would also be funnier than the WA government, and slightly funnier than Egan's little stadium related temper tantrums.

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