Obviously earlier this year that was a lot of talk about the 'roos moving up to the Gold Coast. This morning in the Australian Mick Malthouse believed the sydney needed a 2nd team in the national comp. (cant find the link at the mo)

Giving the changinf landscape over the next 20years or so, where should the AFL relocate/create new teams (if any).

Does SE QLD or sydney need a 2nd team?
or is it time Tas got its own team??

I think the AFL will want one team to relocate (North to Gold Coast) and introduce a second Sydney team.

That will give us 17 teams.

But if the Gold Coast is a start up team, that gives us 18, which could work.

Reading today's paper, Leigh Matthews reckons teams need a break every eight weeks. So, my idea is with 18 teams, thats 9 games a week.
We play a 22 game season over 23 or 24 weeks, and each team gets a bye between round 7 and 10 or 14 and 18 (two teams will have a bye a week in those rounds), plus the State of Orgin round after round 11 (no team will have two weeks off (bye then SOO or SOO then Bye).

I think it could work.

Tasmania can't afford to have an AFL team, as much as they deserve it. They'll get fans, the money is the issue.

I couldn't give a f**k what mick malthouse thinks.

Collingwood could move to darwin before I give a f**k wat he (or akamanis) says. But in this instance he could be right (as much as i hate to say it)

I can't see the AFL moving North up on the Coast because they dont want to lose there Melbourne supporters.
Also Carrara has a capacity of 18k which isn't very good at all.

I don't think the AFL will many changes in the future just crappy rules like the hands in the back.

Get rid of Melbourne and the Kangaroos demote them to teh VFL as they bring nothing to the AFL


14 team comp

26 round season

An article the other day mentioned Carrara upgrading to 25k

http://www.austadiums.com/news/news.php?id=309

This would also allow them to play blockbuster games @ the gabba (similiar to the swans @ telstra stadium + geelong @ td)

I think for the long term future of the game the alf needs to lost some melbourne teams (althought granted melb does a better job @ supporting 9afl teams than syd does @ supporting 9 nrl teams)

This is how i see it... ( but not for another 20years)

WA: west coast + freo
SA: adel + port
QLD: bris + gold coast
NSW: syd + west syd
ACT: canberra (maybe)
TAS: hobart (with launceston in VFL)
NT: none (but with 1 or 2 teams in WAFL or SAFL)
VIC: Geelong, Melb, Colling, Ess, Carl, St K, Rich

reasons for moving vic teams:
kangas -> GC
bulldogs -> Syd

AFL has stated in its NEXT GENERATION brocure it wants another QLD & syd team by 2015. Kangas + Dogs seems most likely to move

Haw -> hobart
When the afl took away waverly i hear a lot that a lot of their supporters never went to another game (possible the reason they play 4-5 games @ tas now)
http://www.austadiums.com/news/news.php?id=307


canb (maybe)
This 1 is hardest which is y i say maybe, canberra has a small pop and already has S14 & NRL team.

This keeps the AFL prefered 16team comp in place, evens the comp out more nationally while still keeping a stong presence in the heartland of VIC

But I cant see this happening for 10-20 years and only if spectators/support are there

As opposed to extinction, which would really keep those supporters happy.
Relocation is probably the only realistic way to ensure those supporters are kept.

Tasmania could be in the SANFL in two years, if this AFL review of the state leagues doesn't work for their position in the VFL.

And the SANFL commission is dead serious about getting them in.

Yes you do - the whole world does. You just won't admit it. The HUN was sufficiently outraged by your comment to publish this today -

Deep thinker:

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 42,00.html

Absolutely no way will Hawthorn relocate permanently to Tasmania. The club now has a start-of-the-art training and administrative venue; in an area with anticapated population growth. This will obviously result in the Hawk's Melbourne supporter base to grow dramatically from it's already impressive numbers. The club has 31,000 members; of which about 27,000 are Victorian. During the 5 years in which the club were at the arse end of the ladder, the hawks still consistently enjoyed membership of roughly 30,000 and regular attendances at the 'G of over 40,000. with success looming, both of these statistics will increase significantly.

Confimed. The AFL are starting the public conditioning process. Some here might remember the 'soft relocation' thread. It appears the AFL are following that model, hastening slowly -

Gold Coast embracing Kangaroos: AFL
Age, June 27, 2007 - 7:34PM

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou says promising crowd figures for the Kangaroos on the Gold Coast should "help them form a view" on where their future lies.

With the league having repeatedly stated its desire to have football played every week in Queensland by 2015, Demetriou was happy to spruik the early success of the `Roos' Carrara experiment as he presented a mid-year review of the competition's key statistics. The Kangaroos' sunny figures on the Gold Coast contrasted with dwindling attendance and membership figures in Melbourne, strengthening the view that their future lies north.

In the first year of their contract to play 10 matches over three seasons in the Sunshine State, Demetriou said they had been embraced by the Gold Coast. They averaged 11,319 attendances in their three matches at the 14,000-capacity stadium, as well as recruiting 1,700 Gold Coast-based members, more than they could accumulate in a five-year stint at previous secondary base Canberra. "We're thrilled with the crowds at Carrara, thrilled that they've got 1,700 members ... I think it helps them form a view," Demetriou said.

Earlier this month, the Kangaroos appointed consulting firm Gemba to assess the club's future opportunities in both the Victorian market and the Gold Coast. "It's for them to make their decision," Demetriou said. "We've already told them our view, we're going there anyway. "There's a hell of a lot of work being done, there's 15 (AFL) people on the ground up there and we're pleased that the Gold Coast community is embracing football. Every time we go up there and we go up there regularly, we leave even more impressed about what we see on the Gold Coast."

Overall, the `Roos' membership tally is down 12 per cent on last season and average home attendances down 14 per cent. Demetriou said off-field traumas, with the club holding a messy board election in the pre-season, as well as having chief executive Geoff Walsh poached by Collingwood, had not helped. "In fairness to the Kangaroos, I've got no doubt that that affected their membership drive," he said.

And he said the AFL was not out to rush the Kangaroos into a permanent move or to expand their current three-year, 10-game Gold Coast deal.

here's an interesting stat, the ROOS are averaging lower home crowd attendences this year than what carlton averaged for home games in 1921