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 Post subject: Sky Sports loses UK rights to NRL
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:50 am 
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I hadn't seen this reported anywhere else but I came across this while reading the Setanta Sports entry on Wikipedia..

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Setanta has recently won the rights to televise Australian NRL Rugby League from 2007 outbidding Sky. There is no news on whether they will show State of Origin. Setanta broadcast last year's Ireland v Wales international live and has also shown Super League friendlies in the past.


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apparently sky did'nt bid at all......

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I hadn't seen this reported anywhere else but I came across this while reading the Setanta Sports entry on Wikipedia..

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Setanta has recently won the rights to televise Australian NRL Rugby League from 2007 outbidding Sky. There is no news on whether they will show State of Origin. Setanta broadcast last year's Ireland v Wales international live and has also shown Super League friendlies in the past.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setanta_Sports_1

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I guess sky just couldnt afford it after the football deal...
ok seriously, such rights must be worth more to whoever has airtime to fill.

Whats the annual value of tv rights for the big australian leagues, AFL, NRL?

I dont know much about the size of tv deals around the world, but I have found it interesting ever since Norway got a very large football deal (for very modest scandinavian standards) as it shows what others can hope for.

NFL must be the biggest, at apparently USD 3.7 billion annualy, which supposedly includes everything


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i don't think it's because they can't afford it..remember sky is part news corp and inturn the NRL is part news corp too (i think) defo some of the clubs are ie melbourne

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NFL must be the biggest, at apparently USD 3.7 billion annualy, which supposedly includes everything


don't NFL clubs sell their tv rights separately??? plus the NFL sell the rights to curtain nights. ie. "monday night football", which ABC had for years but i think someone else has it now..maybe espn?


also i'd argue the premiership costs more worldwide than the NFL.. it's £1.8 BILLION in the uk alone

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The first BSkyB television rights agreement was worth £191 million over five seasons.[17] The next contract, negotiated to start from the 1997–98 season, rose to £670 million over four seasons.[18] The Premier League’s current £1.024 billion deal with BSkyB runs over the course of three seasons from August 2004. BSkyB's monopoly was broken from August 2007 when Setanta Sports was awarded rights to show two out of the six packages of matches available. This occurred following an insistence by the European Commission that exclusive rights should not be sold to one television company. Sky and Setanta paid a total of £1.7 billion, a two-thirds increase which took many commentators by surprise as it had been widely assumed that the value of the rights had levelled off following many years of rapid growth. The BBC has retained the rights to show highlights for the same three seasons (on Match of the Day) for £171.6 million, a 63% increase on the £105 million it paid for the previous three year period.[19] Sky and BT have will jointly pay £84.3 million for delayed television rights to 242 games (that is the right to broadcast them in full on television and over the internet) in most cases for a period of 50 hours after 10pm on matchday.[20] Overseas and mobile phone rights are expected to fetch several hundred million pounds.


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The Premiership's 1.7bn sterling is over a few years.

NFL clubs have collective bargaining and equal shares of TV income and merchandise. That's why they're so keen in getting back into LA. It means more income for all owners.

2006-2011 contracts:

AFC ->CBS ($622.5 million/yr)
NFC -> FOX ($712.5 million/yr)
Monday Nights -> ESPN ($1.1 billion/yr)
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NFL clubs have collective bargaining and equal shares of TV income and merchandise. That's why they're so keen in getting back into LA. It means more income for all owners.

And it must be borne in mind that the Premiership goes for 9 months and the NFL for just 4.

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fair enough :)

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Sky stopped showing the GAA stuff as well.I can see AFL going that way too.

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Sky sports did not bid for Australian NRL because as a sport Rugby League is failing badly particularly in the UK where it is very much in the shadow of Football or 'soccer' as the local thugby league fans call football.UK sports fans like a bit of variety football has different competitions like the FA Cuip and the UEFA Champions League where as NRL is a one trick pony heading towards the knackers yard.

whens the next a rugby league 'world' club championship?? :lol:

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Ok, i think you're either an AFL fan or a rugger bugger.

Might i suggest a name change? I think the surrealist might fit better.

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NFL must be the biggest, at apparently USD 3.7 billion annualy, which supposedly includes everything


don't NFL clubs sell their tv rights separately??? plus the NFL sell the rights to curtain nights. ie. "monday night football", which ABC had for years but i think someone else has it now..maybe espn?


also i'd argue the premiership costs more worldwide than the NFL.. it's £1.8 BILLION in the uk alone

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The first BSkyB television rights agreement was worth £191 million over five seasons.[17] The next contract, negotiated to start from the 1997–98 season, rose to £670 million over four seasons.[18] The Premier League’s current £1.024 billion deal with BSkyB runs over the course of three seasons from August 2004. BSkyB's monopoly was broken from August 2007 when Setanta Sports was awarded rights to show two out of the six packages of matches available. This occurred following an insistence by the European Commission that exclusive rights should not be sold to one television company. Sky and Setanta paid a total of £1.7 billion, a two-thirds increase which took many commentators by surprise as it had been widely assumed that the value of the rights had levelled off following many years of rapid growth. The BBC has retained the rights to show highlights for the same three seasons (on Match of the Day) for £171.6 million, a 63% increase on the £105 million it paid for the previous three year period.[19] Sky and BT have will jointly pay £84.3 million for delayed television rights to 242 games (that is the right to broadcast them in full on television and over the internet) in most cases for a period of 50 hours after 10pm on matchday.[20] Overseas and mobile phone rights are expected to fetch several hundred million pounds.



But no league anywhere gets more than peanuts from overseas deals. Most of the world is too poor to pay anything and the richer parts primarily focus on their own leagues.

The premiership cannot expect more than 10-20% of their UK rights deal for the rest of the world deal.
Everything included, (UK CL as well)Premiership teams will get at absolute most around 2 billion USD annualy, while the NFL apparently gets more than 3 and is clearly the league with the biggest deal.
With 30 NFL and 20 Prem teams each team will get almost exactly the same in the 2 leagues.

The premiership deal is the probably the most impressive, though, considering the populations. The NFL season may be shorter, they do however have the chance to advertise constantly throughout the game.
The new german tv deal grew significantly but is still less than half of the english and for a considerably larger country, So I would consider the english deal the benchmark, but apparently it has much to do with media politics as well, so its not too easy to compare countries.

I would be astonished if Denmark could ever get a population-ajusted deal that high.


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Sky sports did not bid for Australian NRL because as a sport Rugby League is failing badly particularly in the UK where it is very much in the shadow of Football or 'soccer' as the local thugby league fans call football.UK sports fans like a bit of variety football has different competitions like the FA Cuip and the UEFA Champions League where as NRL is a one trick pony heading towards the knackers yard.

whens the next a rugby league 'world' club championship?? :lol:

English Super League gets very good tv ratingson Sky in england.

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