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I nearly put this in the NRL thread, but thought no stuff it, this has issues about media/multinational ownership of sporting teams and/or organisations that go beyond the NRL. Its also an issue I feel strongly about.

Though not lately, I posted in the past that News Ltd ownership of the Melbourne Storm is a big issue with myself - and many others (including the circles I mix with). Its a major impediment to its acceptance.

BUT - I've also posted that I'm a huge Brian Waldron supporter - he was the prefect choice for CEO. I'll own up that I've been sort of a fan of his from prior to when he got that job.

(I think Jeffles for one can attest that both the above have long been views I've posted).

Well today, my admiration for Waldron, his wisdom and insight, has grown - just look at what he's said at a talk where he was completely unaware of the presence of an Age reporter. Needless to say, the News Ltd HUN hasn't run with this -

Storm hated 'because of Murdoch link'
Dan Harrison (Age)
August 2, 2006

MELBOURNE Storm would not be taken seriously by the rugby league community or embraced by its home city while it was owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Limited, its chief executive, Brian Waldron, says. In comments certain to raise eyebrows at News Limited's Sydney headquarters, Mr Waldron said his club was despised because of its connection to Mr Murdoch, who in 1993 set up Super League in an attempt to capture the sport for pay TV channel Foxtel after Kerry Packer's Optus Vision won the rights to the Australian Rugby League.

The Storm, which is on top of the NRL ladder with 16 wins from 19 games, has been dependent on money from Murdoch since its inception in 1998. News Ltd wholly owns the club. "I'd love to think that if we won a premiership the people of Victoria would be a little bit proud of us," Mr Waldron told a business breakfast hosted by youth charity Whitelion yesterday. "But I'm also mindful of the fact that they're probably not going to be that proud of us, because they don't own the team," he said. The Storm's five-member board includes News Ltd executives Peter Jourdain and Frank Stanton and John Webster, from News subsidiary Herald and Weekly Times.

"In the game of rugby league, News Limited's a huge issue, because News Limited created Super League, and Super League created the rugby league war," Mr Waldron, a former chief executive of St Kilda Football Club, said. "The issue we have for Melbourne Storm is how do we get rid of the big grandfather of News Limited that sits over the top of us and makes us so despised by everyone. "Whilst we're owned by News Limited, it's extremely difficult to continue to have some credibility in the marketplace. "We need to be a stand-alone entity that's financially viable. Long term, we want to be owned by the people of Melbourne."

Mr Waldron cited as a possible model the Green Bay Packers in the United States National Football League, which has operated as a publicly-owned non-profit corporation since 1923. (yes - great call) About 4.75 million shares are held by about 110,000 shareholders, none of whom receive a dividend on their initial investment. To prevent anyone from taking control of the team, the articles of incorporation prohibit any one person from owning more than 200,000 shares.

News Limited's director of corporate affairs, Greg Baxter, said that while his company had no plans to sell, it would be interested in hearing from people wanting to invest in the Storm. "News is 100 per cent committed to the Storm," Mr Baxter said. "If there are other investors who want to support the Storm, we'd love to have them on board. They would have to be like-minded people that believe in rugby league in Melbourne. "If those people want to invest in the club and believe in it the way we do, we'd love to talk to them."[/u]

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I used to think think his thesis applied more to the Sydney RL public than to Melburnians. The Storm are referred to here as "Superleague rubbish" etc when they were established after Superleague. But sandy et al present a real case of Melburnians feeling that way as well.

It is good to see a call for more local investment. At this stage it would be quite unattractive with the Storm not even close to making a profit. The new stadium should make the Storm a more reasonable investment as they will be able to derive more income from sponsors and corporate hospitality. The members owned model, based on the Packers and many local AFL clubs will be familiar to the Vics but only a serious consideration once they establish stronger roots.

I am too a big Waldron fan. Would like to see him run the Jets. It's a pay cut but we've won more trophies than St Kilda and the Storm combined!

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TBH I don't think News Ltd owning the Storm would be a big issue in Melbourne. The main point is that Melburnians just don't give a stuff about rugby league. Those that are wise can see it is nothing but a franchise which could be wound up tomorrow. There is no history of the sport in Victoria by any competitive means and the scant regard the NRL treats its southern outpost apropos to televised media coverage fully supports this. Junior development is non-existent and this is emphisised by the NRL strategy plan which soley focuses on concentrating on the regions where rugby league is the primary code. Even a top NRL administrator has personally conceeded to me that they have to let the Nine Network dictate terms when it comes to television coverage in non-traditional rugby league areas so they can get extra dollars. Juxtapose this with their main competitor the AFL and they get prime-time in NSW yet can still get what they want both fiscally and in breadth of coverage.

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TBH I don't think News Ltd owning the Storm would be a big issue in Melbourne. The main point is that Melburnians just don't give a stuff about rugby league. Those that are wise can see it is nothing but a franchise which could be wound up tomorrow. There is no history of the sport in Victoria by any competitive means and the scant regard the NRL treats its southern outpost apropos to televised media coverage fully supports this. Junior development is non-existent and this is emphisised by the NRL strategy plan which soley focuses on concentrating on the regions where rugby league is the primary code. Even a top NRL administrator has personally conceeded to me that they have to let the Nine Network dictate terms when it comes to television coverage in non-traditional rugby league areas so they can get extra dollars. Juxtapose this with their main competitor the AFL and they get prime-time in NSW yet can still get what they want both fiscally and in breadth of coverage.


H - ARSH!!!! A lot of what you say could have applied to 3 or 4 years ago but I think slowly the League is getting its act together. Walrdon is not a News Ltd plant expected to run the show as a subsidary - he is there to improve the standing of the club and of the code. Then there is the recent push with junior development. See below (which includes WARL stats).

http://www.nrl.com.au/News/Latest/NewsA ... ault.aspx/

I knew Luke Ellis when he was at the Jets. He is a top bloke and this role he has been in for a couple of years will see the game develop a core in Melbourne.

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In a way, both HD and Jeffles posts are right - except HD's comments (apart from the TV rights issue that makes FTA RL exposure still limited to after midnight ) apply up until this year. However, as Jeffles says, Waldron identified the lack of RL participation in Victoria (the numbers of grassroots RL participants, which was always low, had actually dropped almost to extinction since Melbourne Storm started in 1998) and the lack of any effort by the RL administrators to do anything about it - as the #1 problem to be fixed.

The NRL negotiated a great deal with the State Gov't to spend $8m per year from this year in RL game development in the school system, and this has made an immediate big difference over the last few months. As a result, RL has already overtaken Gaelic Football and American Football to be the 4th highest participatation code (though not yet at senior level), and now looks set to overtake RU, which has faded badly over the last 2 seasons.

As for that article linked by Jeffles, some observations -

“Their catching and passing is good across the board, but it’s a big surprise to see the girls down here kick the ball much better than those in Sydney!”

I would think the locals superior kicking skills are due to skills acquired for Australian Football. Melbourne Storm employ former AFL players as both kicking and marking coaches. Waldron has said (on SEN) that the AFL style coaching has given them a big advantage.

The programme is already ahead of schedule with schools wanting to play weekly competitions and Ellis says the chance to run out on Olympic Park at half time in Storm games is winning new fans. “The kids get to work some skills on game day and they have so much fun it brings them back to the next home game as spectators.

Waldron said that the RL junior development program is a direct copy of the AFL program. The VFL/AFL have had kids playing at half time at their games since the 1960's. I still remember the two goals I kicked at the 'G!

As for Storm getting rid of News Ltd ownership - I can only hope. Interestingly, Waldron's motivation in switching from the AFL (which he still follows intently) to CEO of Storm was solely to get a foot into the News Ltd executive door - the opportunity to become an executive in a major multi-national company. He figures that if he can make Storm viable, then that should get him noticed. It also means he won't hang around Storm forever. He'll either move up the News Ltd corporate ladder - or, if not, then move on elsewhwere (in which case Vlad better watch out!).

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I agree with HD.

Melburnians will take a significant social shift for them to appreciate weekly the small events such as League...but anything can happen, eg Sydney and its appreciation for the Swans, I suppose News Ltd need to analyse this in another 10-15 years and see how established the Storm are compared to the Swans are in Sydney.

Adelaide and Perth are far better markets for the NRL to get involved in the future and far easier to crack, due to historical linkages - Well for WA it seems to have been the best out of the Aussie Rules states for historical ties to the game...

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I doubt NRL in Melbourne will ever be as strong as AFL in Sydney. The AFL were able to crack Sydney relatively successfully due to:
• There already being a reasonably strong aussie rules club competition in Sydney when they moved in 1982. I’ve heard that aussie rules in the 70’s in Sydney was quite strong with local clubs drawing crowds comparable to rugby league at the time, with blokes like Sam Kekovich playing.
• When the Swans eventually became a finals side in around 1987 with effective hype marketing, that local club comp culture enabled them to achieve 25k crowds (note, my guess). This is also exactly the case in Brisbane and how it evolved successfully.
• The Swans’ boom resurgence couldn’t have chosen a better time EVER than the year 1996 which saw rugby league drop to its lowest and most unpopular point in history (for the fans) with the Super League / News Ltd war, just after rugby league had become the most popular it had ever been in 1994. This really allowed the Swans to cash in on some fans that no longer had a team or competition that they believed in. Ditto for Brisbane, they just moved back to the Gabba, which was a much more attractive venue than ANZ Stadium, and plenty of sports fans disliked the Broncos in Brisbane and needed a team to support

You will note that none of these crucial points are either present in Melbourne or have no chance of happening, therefore, until at least a senior and junior playing rugby league comp is played locally in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth, an NRL club will be struggling to be commercially viable in these cities. And the NRL does not exactly have the money the AFL does to afford non-commercially viable clubs.

It is also fair to say, as Kerry Packer did when Alan Bond went bust after Bond bought Nine for a cool $1Billion back in the late eighties – “that you only get one Alan Bond in your lifetime” – applies to the AFL – “you only get one Super League war in your lifetime”.

I doubt the NRL will ever be able to say that, although the AFL could be digging themselves as their own version of News Ltd. This article by Patrick Smith today shows that the AFL could really an evil and unjust empire, is there any chance the fans will ever revolt / go on strike and demand cheaper prices on season tickets etc? Or are the fans too brainwashed with all the propaganda? I for one find it disgusting that Andrew Demetriou has given himself a pay rise – to $1million a year – if it stays the same, I will always think of where my money is going every time I buy a ticket to the AFL from now on, something I’ve never considered before when going to watch sport.

http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,86 ... 11,00.html

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Forget players, make football cheaper
By Patrick Smith
August 4, 2006

LET us deal with the excuses first. Get the nonsense out of the way.
One, AFL footballers are wealthy young men with time on their hands. Two, the pressure to perform is great and sometimes suffocating. Three, the public likes nothing better than baiting a footballer. Four, they are not role models, just footballers.

We dismiss all that as bunkum.

There are lots of 25-year-old men and women, working in jobs that draw intense responsibility and scrutiny, who don't go around belting other people outside pubs. Who don't go driving drunk, who don't go fleeing from police, who don't carry weapons, who don't assault supporters never mind police, don't go speeding, don't drive without a licence.

All of those breaches of the law were detailed in The Australian last week. All of them the work of AFL footballers.

Then along came Chris Tarrant and Ben Johnson as if on cue. Footballers behaving badly? Cop this. AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou and AFL Players Association boss Brendon Gale have said player behaviour is a concern. And both have said it is no better or worse than it has been over the years. We think they are wrong.

Tables run in all papers this week show footballers have been persistently drawing headlines not for miskicks but misdemeanours. More than in 2005 and more than in 2004.

This same group of players will enjoy a split of nearly $800 million over the next five years.

Pay has gone up, marketing and promotional money has gone up, prizemoney has gone up, retirement funding has gone up, and welfare spending. Everything has gone up except the expectation of the AFL that its footballers behave themselves.

The league and the players' association bore us with details of all the education programs available to footballers.

From draft camp to club, players are warned about drugs and alcohol. They are counselled on their lifestyle, on fame and fortune. They are warned of the increased expectation that falls on a sportsman's shoulders.
For this they are rewarded handsomely. The average income for a footballer is about $200,000.

In truth, they are indulged. Spoilt brats.

For example: the AFL introduced an illicit drug code that protects the players unnecessarily and lends the league to easy criticism that it is soft on drugs.

In the next five years, the AFL will set aside $35 million for the players' retirement fund. And $25 million will be set aside to continue to fund players' education. That is $5 million a year. As one listener on Melbourne talkback radio said, that's enough to fund 100 teachers at $50,000 per annum. That's a lot of education. For that sort of money you are entitled to think one of the players might come up with a cure for cancer.
Given that Gale and Demetriou maintain player behaviour gets neither better nor worse, the education programs in the past seem to be a waste of money.

The more money clubs, the AFL and the players' association direct at educating the players, the more behaviour deteriorates.

If the average earn available to players is $200,000, they should fund their own education. Set up their own self-help groups. If it is their money at work, they might actually listen. Take something on board. Everybody has lined up for a slice of the $780 million broadcast money. The players. The clubs want $2 million a year.

The AFL administration has - correctly - been rewarded for the successful manner in which it has run football. Money will be poured into the game's development up north, especially South-East Queensland, where the AFL is locked in battle with rugby league.

Any suggestion that some of the $780 million might go to relieving the burden on spectators who must pay for admission, membership, reserved seats, parking and outrageously priced food is laughed at by the AFL.
Well, rather than spend $25 million on players to explain the bleeding obvious to them - don't stay out in nightclubs to 4am - the money should be directed towards lowering the cost of football.

Membership should be cheaper, seats cheaper, admission cheaper, merchandise cheaper. And you definitely should be able to buy two dim sims and get some change out of $50.

The public should be rewarded for their loyalty to the game. Their enthusiasm to follow the sport at venues and on television. It might be the players who put on the show but it is the fans who pay to watch it. They are the reason broadcasters shell out $780 million.

The majority of footballers do the right thing by their clubs and their supporters. But all codes must now fight for a share of a marketplace that has become much more competitive and tight with the success of the Socceroos.

And there are enough footballers behaving badly to damage the AFL brand.

Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse selected both Johnson and Tarrant for the match against Adelaide. That is his policy. Maybe that is why Sunday morning's incident was not the first in which these players have been involved.

Some players never learn. Not even if you throw $25 million at them.


Anyways, I hope Waldron stays with the Storm for a long time to come, he's doing a bloody great job.

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Fans are too brainwashed. It is an unfortunate fact. I for one am on strike and will be to the day I snuff it. I know of a number of 'old-style' football supporters (and yes I have used football in this instance to refer to Aussie rules as it is directly related to the game I used to love) who are in the same boat as me and have turned their back on the sport.

Patrick Smith raises some good points. However the delicious irony is this is the same Patrick Smith who in his younger days as an opening fast bowler for the Prahran 1st XI in the VCA District Comp that hip and shouldered an umpire he had a disagreement with.

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Good little post by HD. Meanwhile, The Age, as a follow-up, got an interview with Waldron (or was it vice-versa?) -

Storm goes from survival to expansion tactics
Stathi Paxinos (Age)
August 5, 2006

RUGBY league officials yesterday admitted there were genuine concerns about the viability of Melbourne's National Rugby League team when Brian Waldron took over the reins at Storm less than two years ago. The Age believes News Ltd had given Waldron six months to show the venture was viable in Melbourne, otherwise the teame would be moved to Gosford on the NSW central coast.

Waldron would not comment on the speculation yesterday but he admitted to having some doubts about the Storm's survival when he took over in late 2004. But he said things had turned around so much that the recent announcement of the Storm entering an arrangement for a feeder team to be based in Gosford did not "raise a ripple".

The Storm's franchise in Melbourne has been guaranteed by News Ltd, which also co-runs the NRL with the Australian Rugby League, to 2011. NRL chief executive David Gallop also said the future of the Storm — propped up by owner News Ltd — had been under scrutiny as poor crowds and financial losses led to calls for the club to be moved to Gosford, which hosted a region calling out for league representation. "Certainly 2005 was a year when there was a lot of examination of what needed to be done to make the Storm work," Gallop said. "The great thing is that produced a whole range of measures that gives them every chance of working."

Waldron said the club, which is still "not out of the woods financially yet", was developing into an attractive proposition for investors, It was now secure enough about the future to enter into an arrangement for the Central Coast Rip to be its feeder team in next season's NSWRL premier league competition — a move that would have previously sparked suspicion that News Ltd was planning to relocate the club to Gosford.

"There was no doubt that there was a perception out there that we weren't long-term committed but that has turned around greatly in the last 18 months even to the extent that I could openly state two weeks ago that we were looking to extend to grow our supporter base by being involved with a feeder team on the central coast of NSW and it didn't raise a ripple in so far as every one saying this is the first step," Waldron said. "In this market here, it was 'That makes sense because you are trying to grow your brand'."

He said the new purpose-built stadium that would be completed by 2009 had added to the Storm's credibility among Victorians. It would help the bottom line as it would increase the number of corporate clients that could be serviced from 300 now catered at Olympic Park, to 1700 people, which would equate to about an extra $500,000 each game. "I think we've developed a culture that we have a responsibility to represent the NRL down here and we've actually bought into it and I think that's been embraced by the people of Melbourne. They see it as their team," Waldron said.

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Re AFL ticket prices: buy a membership, its cheaper overall; no one forcs you to buy food however:

IF EVER AT TELSTRA DOME AND WANT FOOD OR DRINK
-Go to Gate 1 behind Coventry Goals and get a pass out, you will see Subway, Pizza and another few stores, buy drinks from there, water there is 2.50 rather than 5.00 inside the ground

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Onto the real topic here, the Storm, i think Waldron is a good CEO, he got my Saints out of financial trouble and knows what he is doing, and runs the club a bit similar to the AFL imo using his contacts from his days as St Kilda CEO (ie training at MC Labour Park)

As a Melburnian, i love sport, i follow the Storm, although, being 16, never been to a game yet but want to one day, one of the reasons the gme isnt flying in this state is media coverage. Up until last year there was nothing, SEN now have the match of the day on the sundays, talk about the Storm more often, and the newspapers are giving more pages to the sport. I don't mind the game, i think AFL is better but im still going to watch NRL...a Sydneysider i talked to a couple weeks back said the reason we were hated is because of the circumstances the NRL put the Storm in in, in the middle of civil war, and they just wanted a team there and hoped things would happen, and many believe the 1999 flag was given to us

i havnet worked out he point of my post yet

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The Storm kinda remind me of the start-up A-League clubs. The main fight is to prove to the public and your potential supporters that you're in it for the long run and it's worth people putting their heart into supporting you. Fighting the perception battle is paramount.

I think the Storm are finally winning their battle.

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