20,000 South Africans to play aussie rules by 2010

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Re: 20,000 South Africans to play aussie rules by 2010

Postby gyfox » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:46 pm

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By your own figures more than half the number of Australians who attend sport attend AFL.


As I said, mathematics is obviously not a strength of yours. The numbers do not say that at all. The result of this is the "argument" you set out is based on an untruth which makes any points you make tenuous without considering the "logic" you use to make them.

No one would disagree that AFL is the biggest sport in the country but the initial point you made in your first post was that most Australians prefer AFL which all the figures show is not true.
But former Socceroo and Fox Sports television commentator Bosnich told SEN those statistics were misleading.
"Statistics are a bit like bikinis – they show you a lot but not everything," he said.

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Postby bazza » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:28 am

Nines wrote:It's just hiliarous that some people bag the Australian game (which is their right) but then hypocritically expect Australians to support Australia in their foreign code.


who does that besides a few strawmen?
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Re: 20,000 South Africans to play aussie rules by 2010

Postby dibo » Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:02 pm

I'm awestruck by the sheer stupid.
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Re: 20,000 South Africans to play aussie rules by 2010

Postby Spirit of Santos » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:05 pm

I was having a casual kick about at Erskinville Oval the other day and there were three young men doing the same, but with a red ball in the peculiar Victorian fashion. Not news you're thinking - however, one of them seemed to have a soft English accent. More evidence of AFL's increasingly broad appeal?

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Re: 20,000 South Africans to play aussie rules by 2010

Postby gyfox » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:41 am

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You haven't shown any thing to the contrary, just about an attendance statistics which shows that Australians who attend sport prefer Australian Football.


Actually the statistics I quoted show the opposite of your statement but your opinion being the opposite of reality is not surprising.

Good luck with your quest to turn 16.2% of the population attending Australian Rules football into "most Australians prefer Australian Football". Its going to be extremely difficult task seeing the 55% of Australians who live in the ACT, NSW and Qld don't care much about your game at all.
But former Socceroo and Fox Sports television commentator Bosnich told SEN those statistics were misleading.
"Statistics are a bit like bikinis – they show you a lot but not everything," he said.

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Re: 20,000 South Africans to play aussie rules by 2010

Postby yob » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:56 am

gyfox wrote:Good luck with your quest to turn 16.2% of the population attending Australian Rules football into "most Australians prefer Australian Football".

Easy. Only count "real" aussies.
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Postby dibo » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:26 pm

Ah, the "no true Scotsman"!
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Re: 20,000 South Africans to play aussie rules by 2010

Postby Simmo79 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:41 pm

yob wrote:
gyfox wrote:Good luck with your quest to turn 16.2% of the population attending Australian Rules football into "most Australians prefer Australian Football".

Easy. Only count "real" aussies.


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Re: 20,000 South Africans to play aussie rules by 2010

Postby gyfox » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:35 pm

Simmo79 wrote:
yob wrote:
gyfox wrote:Good luck with your quest to turn 16.2% of the population attending Australian Rules football into "most Australians prefer Australian Football".

Easy. Only count "real" aussies.


[Kevin Sheedy reference]


I like this quote from a blog article by Ian Syson a sports historian on the Sheedy pronouncement.

So it has come to this. According to Kevin Sheedy, Western Sydney Wanderers have been successful because the Immigration Department recruited its support base. The whistler has whistled and the dogs are barking. The Victorian imperialist has inverted logic and history and turned the local game into the foreign one while his imported culture is promoted as the one that truly belongs.


The article goes on to detail how football has been part of western Sydney culture for well over a century. (Unlike the Victorian game).

http://neososmos.blogspot.com.au/2013/0 ... ydney.html
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"Statistics are a bit like bikinis – they show you a lot but not everything," he said.

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Re: 20,000 South Africans to play aussie rules by 2010

Postby yob » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:16 pm

were they South African
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Re: 20,000 South Africans to play aussie rules by 2010

Postby gyfox » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:35 pm

Nines wrote:
gyfox wrote:
Nines wrote:
You haven't shown any thing to the contrary, just about an attendance statistics which shows that Australians who [b]attend sport prefer Australian Football.[/b]


Actually the statistics I quoted show the opposite of your statement but your opinion being the opposite of reality is not surprising.
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Get some statistic s about those who don't attend football and you might have a case
but rl people will tell you it's not about crowds.


You are the one who made the statement that "most Australians prefer Australian football". Its up to you to prove it. All I've done is show you that most Australians prefer not to attend sport and of the ones that do the minority prefer Australian Rules football. As I have previously said the majority of Australians (55%) live in states and territories where Australia Rules football is simply a niche sport with less than 5% of adults attending the game and less than 0.5% of adults participating in it according to the ABS. If you look at the FTA broadcast ratings over the last season and a half for games broadcast in all 5 capital cities on average only 10% of the viewers combined were in Sydney (32k) and Brisbane (37k) so the support for the code as measured by FTA ratings is less than 1% of the population in Sydney and less than 2% of the population in Brisbane. Of course the STV ratings have to be added to this but even if they double the support the total is still quite small. Double it again to bring the regionals into the equation and still the total support is fairly insignificant. If you could muster 400k between NSW and Qld and the ACT who prefer Australian Rules football I would be most surprised. If every single person in the other states and territories preferred Australian Rules football you still wouldn't get to your claim of "most Australians prefer Australian football". I suppose the crunch to your claim comes when considering the ratings for the AFL Grand Final which show that less than 20% of the population watch the event.
But former Socceroo and Fox Sports television commentator Bosnich told SEN those statistics were misleading.
"Statistics are a bit like bikinis – they show you a lot but not everything," he said.


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