World Cup 2011 - Stadia
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World Cup 2011 - Stadia
The IRB made their decsion this morning on the location of the 2011 World Cup, and it's coming home to New Zealand.
The final is, i understand, already confirmed for Eden Park. A replacement, or really, really significant permanent upgrades haven't yet been ruled out. What kind of adjustments would you make to Eden Park to make it world class?
Also, some of the games between the dud countries will be played in the New Zealand provinces. Which provincial grounds would you locate the games at?
I strongly suspect Auckland will be the 'home' of the World Cup, with three high class rectangular stadiums in the area - North Harbours North Harbour Stadium, Counties Ericsson Stadium, and Eden Park.
My theory for Eden Park is to level it - base cricket and the Blues at North Harbour and Auckland at Ericsson Stadium during the rebuild. I'd rebuild Eden Park much like Telstra Stadium - only 65,000 seats, with retractable stands along the wings to accomodate the cricket. Then add shitloads of carparking and decent public transport and you have a world class stadium in Auckland. But that's just a pipe dream.
The final is, i understand, already confirmed for Eden Park. A replacement, or really, really significant permanent upgrades haven't yet been ruled out. What kind of adjustments would you make to Eden Park to make it world class?
Also, some of the games between the dud countries will be played in the New Zealand provinces. Which provincial grounds would you locate the games at?
I strongly suspect Auckland will be the 'home' of the World Cup, with three high class rectangular stadiums in the area - North Harbours North Harbour Stadium, Counties Ericsson Stadium, and Eden Park.
My theory for Eden Park is to level it - base cricket and the Blues at North Harbour and Auckland at Ericsson Stadium during the rebuild. I'd rebuild Eden Park much like Telstra Stadium - only 65,000 seats, with retractable stands along the wings to accomodate the cricket. Then add shitloads of carparking and decent public transport and you have a world class stadium in Auckland. But that's just a pipe dream.
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I saw on SBS World Sport tonight that Eden Park will get the upgrade to 60,000 seats. Auckland should "do a Wellington".
I think they should do a Westpac Trust Stadium or Telstra Dome type development in Auckland leaving accomodating RU and ODI/big Test match cricket with smaller Test match/provincal cricket going to a new small ground (Basin Reserve size).
The report carried a story on Dunedin Ratepayers vehmently opposed to public funds upgrading Carisbrook. Some venues will need a touch up but I think they are on track.
I think they should do a Westpac Trust Stadium or Telstra Dome type development in Auckland leaving accomodating RU and ODI/big Test match cricket with smaller Test match/provincal cricket going to a new small ground (Basin Reserve size).
The report carried a story on Dunedin Ratepayers vehmently opposed to public funds upgrading Carisbrook. Some venues will need a touch up but I think they are on track.
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eden park should be raised to the ground it's horrible
i really like the westpac stadium
looking at the rest of the stadia there plenty of scope for development,like filling in the goal ends @ errickson with the same 2 tier stand they've just built. bigger stadia aswell cos outside of eden park nowhere tops 35,000 and taking into consideration how many fans from up here are going to come down there thats not big enough...
japan should have got it,imo
i really like the westpac stadium
looking at the rest of the stadia there plenty of scope for development,like filling in the goal ends @ errickson with the same 2 tier stand they've just built. bigger stadia aswell cos outside of eden park nowhere tops 35,000 and taking into consideration how many fans from up here are going to come down there thats not big enough...
japan should have got it,imo
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worryingly i've just seen this on the eden park website
so levelling the lot isn't an option.
There will be changes to Eden Park for RWC 2011 to accommodate an increased capacity. There are two key options being considered - the construction of a temporary west stand or the redevelopment of the South and South West Stands. Planning has commenced on both options which will now be accelerated.
so levelling the lot isn't an option.
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With respect it doesn't seem a very rigorous selection process for this event if somewhere can get it without any clear idea on the showpiece venue.
I don't really understand the New Zealand issue RU is the number one sport so why not build a modern 60,000 rectangular stadium it would recoup the money quickly from the WC,Tri-nations,some Super 12 and tours etc.
Is Eden park like the old Wembley where it's iconic status blinds people to the state of the place?
I don't really understand the New Zealand issue RU is the number one sport so why not build a modern 60,000 rectangular stadium it would recoup the money quickly from the WC,Tri-nations,some Super 12 and tours etc.
Is Eden park like the old Wembley where it's iconic status blinds people to the state of the place?
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No, it is widely regarded as an arsehole of a ground, its saving grace is it's 45,000 capacity. Everyone but the stadiums neighbours and the people holding the purse strings was it started from scratch. This is the opportunity to do it, and do it well.Dr H wrote: Is Eden park like the old Wembley where it's iconic status blinds people to the state of the place?
You are also forgetting how inept the people who call themselves planners are in Auckland. Only recently a new stand was built at Eden Park - it was sadly never going to get levelled. We have no trains, lousy buses....argh, i'm scared already.
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I've heard the main problem with Eden is it's blocked in by houses, ruling out a large scale renovation.
I think the best option would to be to level Eden Park, and transform it into a 15-20,000 seater cricket ground, and then build a 60-70,000 seat venue elsewhere in the Auckland area.
I wonder which other venues will be used, considering:
-Eden Park
-Westpac Stadium
-Carisbrook
-Jade Stadium
-Waikato Stadium
-North Harbour Stadium
are given as garunteed. I'm not quite sure which of the following are suitable, but:
-ITM Stadium
-Rugby Park (Invercargill)
-Yarrow Stadium
-Rotorua International Stadium
-BlueChip N.Z. Stadium
-McLean Park
being the largest of the NPC stadiums would proabably get a look in too.
I think the best option would to be to level Eden Park, and transform it into a 15-20,000 seater cricket ground, and then build a 60-70,000 seat venue elsewhere in the Auckland area.
I wonder which other venues will be used, considering:
-Eden Park
-Westpac Stadium
-Carisbrook
-Jade Stadium
-Waikato Stadium
-North Harbour Stadium
are given as garunteed. I'm not quite sure which of the following are suitable, but:
-ITM Stadium
-Rugby Park (Invercargill)
-Yarrow Stadium
-Rotorua International Stadium
-BlueChip N.Z. Stadium
-McLean Park
being the largest of the NPC stadiums would proabably get a look in too.
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Not even going to try to defend Eden Park.Egan wrote:In the 10 worst stadiums in the world, Eden Park ranks high on the list.
Lousy views, poor design, no parking, generally inaccessable.
Give me Ericsson Stadium, or even North Harbour Stadium - gasp.
A massive redevelopment of North Harbour to 60,000 would be smartest, but it is home to one of the lowest drawing NPC teams.
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Not even going to try to defend Eden Park.Egan wrote:In the 10 worst stadiums in the world, Eden Park ranks high on the list.
Lousy views, poor design, no parking, generally inaccessable.
Give me Ericsson Stadium, or even North Harbour Stadium - gasp.
A massive redevelopment of North Harbour to 60,000 would be smartest, but it is home to one of the lowest drawing NPC teams.
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