Austadiums Forum

Just a quick thought on the NSW's Governments stadium strategy. What do people think if they built a 30,000 indoor stadium around the Liverpool area and played every Friday Night NRL game their.

The venue would be no ones home ground, just every Sydney Friday Night game. It would be a roofed stadium so no problems with the weather. It would need plenty of car parking and a railway station built nearby. The field could be grown outside and then slid in on game day (check out the Arizona Cardinals NFL teams stadium who already use this method). Peoples thoughts on this?

Better to build a 10,000 indoor stadium at Moore Park with all the best replay screens and setup for TV cameras
Play at least 1 night game per week there - maybe up to 3 - Friday, Saturday and Monday night
Being close to the city would ensure a full house every week and look great on TV

The NRL can pay the home team $100,000 per game there to compensate for any loss of home game revenue

Evidently we aren't too far away from a decision on what stadiums get what with the latest leak indicating a much bigger spend than the $600m. The Premier even mentioned that there were so many competing interests from many sports that sorting it all out was a difficult process.

The latest rumour is according to the DT a brand new 30k Pirtek replacement, a 50-55k Allianz replacement, a 10k indoor stadium at Wentworth Park and a $300 upgrade to ANZ either as a roof or rectangularisation.

Meanwhile there are loads of parks around NSW where community clubs struggle to play on sh*t surfaces with sh*t facilities and inadequate (or non-existent) lighting.

dibo wrote:Meanwhile there are loads of parks around NSW where community clubs struggle to play on sh*t surfaces with sh*t facilities and inadequate (or non-existent) lighting.

Submission to Government.

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Football NSW Facilties update.

http://www.footballnsw.com.au/fileadmin ... ccioni.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Government response.











I was sure there was one somewhere.

This was on 7 news tonight

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30,000-seat Parramatta stadium among NSW Premier's promised $1 billion upgrades
Date
September 4, 2015 - 12:45PM
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Jacob Saulwick

A new 30,000-seat stadium will be built at Parramatta, part of an investment in new and old stadiums in Sydney, worth more than $1 billion.

NSW Premier Mike Baird and Minister for Sport Stuart Ayres announced the new stadium on Friday.

They called their overall package the biggest investment in sport and major event infrastructure in NSW since the Sydney Olympics in 2000.

There will also be a new rectangular stadium at Moore Park, seating between 50,000 and 55,000, and a new indoor arena near the CBD, Mr Baird said in a release.

The package includes a new outer western Sydney sporting venue, a possible retractable roof and redevelopment of ANZ Stadium at Sydney Olympic Park, and the completion of the SCG upgrade.

"A global city like Sydney needs world-class sporting venues and this investment will ensure fans and sporting teams have the facilities they deserve," Mr Baird said.

"Our first priority is building a new 30,000 seat stadium at Parramatta on the site of the existing facility, with work to begin as soon as possible and construction expected to be completed by 2019," he said.

But many questions about the package remain unclear. The government has set aside $600 million from the privatisation of electricity assets to spend on upgrades, but has not said how it would find the rest of the funds.

The locations for some of the new stadiums are also uncertain.

"The upgrades are contingent upon final business cases, design work and the NSW government reaching content agreements with the sporting codes to ensure matches are spread across the stadium network," Mr Ayres said.

"As part of this package, NSW government is negotiating to acquire leasehold management rights for Stadium Australia.

Once this is finalised we will work towards one governing entity for Sydney's stadia network," he said.

More to come



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/30000seat-par ... z3kjctBggr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Anyone know what expertise Hassell has in stadium design? They did some work on the Pirtek upgrade and the Western Stand at AO as far as I can work out.

gyfox wrote:Anyone know what expertise Hassell has in stadium design? They did some work on the Pirtek upgrade and the Western Stand at AO as far as I can work out.

That's as far as I know too, but overall as an architecture firm they're top notch.

They are supposed to have been working on concept designs for Pirtek and I just hope if they get the actual job they have the requisite expertise especially as regards the bowl design.

Link to Stadia Strategy Implementation Report. So far the Government have gone with Pirtek and changed SFS to a lower capacity. It will be interesting to see how much of it gets modified as they find out the real costs. There has been a lot of chatter about ANZ and many including myself had the impression that full rectangularisation was likely but it seems its only a possibility and doesn't seem to be mentioned in the report as far as I have read so far.


https://sportandrecreation.nsw.gov.au/s ... Report.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Couple of questions...

1. Why is there a 'need' to have a 15k capacity arena near the CBD?
2. What is the justification for the proposed capacities of the new stadia?

Boba Fett wrote:Couple of questions...

1. Why is there a 'need' to have a 15k capacity arena near the CBD?
2. What is the justification for the proposed capacities of the new stadia?

1. The Sydney Entertainment Centre gets demolished in December as part of the Darling Harbor renewal, but it's replacement is inappropriate for indoor sports.
2. WSW are a fast growing team and Parramatta Stadium can't cope and the Eels want to host more than 10 games a year at Parramatta rather than selling them out to Olympic Park.

Orel Puppington wrote:

Boba Fett wrote:Couple of questions...

1. Why is there a 'need' to have a 15k capacity arena near the CBD?
2. What is the justification for the proposed capacities of the new stadia?

1. The Sydney Entertainment Centre gets demolished in December as part of the Darling Harbor renewal, but it's replacement is inappropriate for indoor sports.
2. WSW are a fast growing team and Parramatta Stadium can't cope and the Eels want to host more than 10 games a year at Parramatta rather than selling them out to Olympic Park.

There's no justification for the Moore Park stadium plan. Mr Market isn't even saying 25,000, let alone 55!

Orel Puppington wrote:

Boba Fett wrote:Couple of questions...

1. Why is there a 'need' to have a 15k capacity arena near the CBD?
2. What is the justification for the proposed capacities of the new stadia?

1. The Sydney Entertainment Centre gets demolished in December as part of the Darling Harbor renewal, but it's replacement is inappropriate for indoor sports.
2. WSW are a fast growing team and Parramatta Stadium can't cope and the Eels want to host more than 10 games a year at Parramatta rather than selling them out to Olympic Park.

Sorry, I should have been clearer with my first question. Allphones Arena (21k seat capacity) already exists for indoor sports. Where is the evidence that there is demand for a similar arena?

In regards to the second question - but why 30k capacity for the new Parra Stadium? WSW crowds actually dropped last season (average of just over 12k) - if they can't even fill a 21k seat stadium, why build a 30k capacity one? Likewise for the new SFS - apart from one rugby international and an A-League derby it never came close to being filled.

These capacities seem to have been pulled out of thin air and are not justified with any real evidence. Before the government goes ahead and spends over a billion dollars of tax payer money I'd like them to ensure that the money isn't going to be wasted on vanity projects that are nothing more than willy-waving exercises.