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dibo wrote:Has anybody seen a pic of what the new/renovated Parra Stadium is supposed to look like?
The only images I have seen are linked below but I'm not sure if they were prepared for the latest version of the master plan that was done by Hassel's.
yob wrote:The idea that professional rectangular code football only be played in 3 venues in a city of 5 million people is ridiculous.
Why?
Seems to work in many other cities around the world much bigger than Sydney...
How many teams do those cities have though? I can't see there being any true rule for working out how many venues are needed for a city. It boils down to how well situated each club is to its fanbase. Sport is a retail business and location is everything. If fanbases are dispersed and can be well-serviced with a central facility then great, but if the fanbase is local then the stadium has to be local as well.
yob wrote:The idea that professional rectangular code football only be played in 3 venues in a city of 5 million people is ridiculous.
Why?
Seems to work in many other cities around the world much bigger than Sydney...
How many teams do those cities have though? I can't see there being any true rule for working out how many venues are needed for a city. It boils down to how well situated each club is to its fanbase. Sport is a retail business and location is everything. If fanbases are dispersed and can be well-serviced with a central facility then great, but if the fanbase is local then the stadium has to be local as well.
Simmo79 wrote:
How many teams do those cities have though? I can't see there being any true rule for working out how many venues are needed for a city. It boils down to how well situated each club is to its fanbase. Sport is a retail business and location is everything. If fanbases are dispersed and can be well-serviced with a central facility then great, but if the fanbase is local then the stadium has to be local as well.
And how geographically spread are those cities...
It was interesting to read in the NSW Stadia Strategy that the population in Melbourne was 50% more dense than the population in Sydney meaning that Sydney required a more intelligent stadia solution than a simple centralised hub and precinct model.
Simmo79 wrote:
How many teams do those cities have though? I can't see there being any true rule for working out how many venues are needed for a city. It boils down to how well situated each club is to its fanbase. Sport is a retail business and location is everything. If fanbases are dispersed and can be well-serviced with a central facility then great, but if the fanbase is local then the stadium has to be local as well.
And how geographically spread are those cities...
It was interesting to read in the NSW Stadia Strategy that the population in Melbourne was 50% more dense than the population in Sydney meaning that Sydney required a more intelligent stadia solution than a simple centralised hub and precinct model.
It was interesting to read in the NSW Stadia Strategy that the population in Melbourne was 50% more dense than the population in Sydney meaning that Sydney required a more intelligent stadia solution than a simple centralised hub and precinct model.
The ideal solution would have been, in my opinion:
Inner City Stadium (45,000) - SFS (Eastern Suburbs, NSW Waratahs, Sydney FC)
Inner West Stadium (83,500) - Stadium Australia (Canterbury-Bankstown, South Sydney)
Central Outer West Stadium (30,000) - Blacktown/Eastern Creek (Wests, Parramatta, Penrith, WS Wanderers)
Southern Sydney Stadium (30,000) - Top of Sutherland Shire/Bottom of St. George region, as close to bridge as possible (St.George-Illawarra, Cronulla-Sutherland)
That would have solved the problems of all clubs barring Manly, about whom I could not care less.
St.George and Cronulla going their own way has scuppered any chance of the southern option, but the other three are still viable imo.
Timbo wrote:The ideal solution would have been, in my opinion:
Inner City Stadium (45,000) - SFS (Eastern Suburbs, NSW Waratahs, Sydney FC)
Inner West Stadium (83,500) - Stadium Australia (Canterbury-Bankstown, South Sydney)
Central Outer West Stadium (30,000) - Blacktown/Eastern Creek (Wests, Parramatta, Penrith, WS Wanderers)
Southern Sydney Stadium (30,000) - Top of Sutherland Shire/Bottom of St. George region, as close to bridge as possible (St.George-Illawarra, Cronulla-Sutherland)
That would have solved the problems of all clubs barring Manly, about whom I could not care less.
St.George and Cronulla going their own way has scuppered any chance of the southern option, but the other three are still viable imo.
So nothing for south west Sydney with current population 452k soon to be near 1 million that passes the southern suburbs from Marrackville down sometime between 2021 and 2026? And please don't suggest the Eastern Creek/ Blacktown has any link whatsoever with that region. It is a world away.
I have posted on other forums and I think before on here that it is impossible to service western Sydney long term with a single Tier 2 stadium. The region will have the majority of Sydney's population by 2036.
Gyfox is correct a stadium in Liverpool would serve the whole South-West well. From St George / Marrickville right down to Campbelltown . This is the M5 / East Hill line corridor.