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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:13 pm
by Kelly_7
The movie would be called "The Stadium That Never Got Built"
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:58 pm
by Simmo79
with the tagline: "If you don't build it, they won't come"
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:02 am
by Egan
www.watoday.com.au
Opposition lashes out at stadium indecisiveness
Joseph Sapienza
October 24, 2008 - 3:58PM
The State Opposition has lashed out at the Government over its continued indecisiveness on the stadium issue following Premier Colin Barnett's meeting with AFL chief executive officer Andrew Demetriou today.
The Premier could not confirm whether - and when - an entirely new stadium would be built on Kitchener Park in Subiaco or if a staged redevelopment of Subiaco Oval would take place. 
The AFL says it will work with the Government no matter what decision it makes on the contentious project, although it is believed the League favours a new stadium being built from scratch.
The Opposition's spokesman for Sport, Ken Travers, says it is important WA gets a new stadium rather than a redevelopment of Subiaco Oval.
"I'm concerned the Premier may be softening us up to walk away from the stadium (proposal)," Mr Travers told WA Today.
He said a new stadium would not be suitable for just AFL, but also for rectangular sports like soccer and rugby with its proposed retractable seating.
"The new stadium is the cheaper option for the State (as well)," he said. "With a redevelopment, it's throwing good money after bad."
He also asked the Premier to read the Langoulant Task Force report on Perth's need for a new sports stadium.
"The Premier needs to read the report, which says the cheapest and best option long term for the State is to build a new stadium for all sports.
They need to get on with it," he said.
"It is outrageous the Premier didn't read it. Before making comment, he should do his homework.
"There was clearly bi-partisan support for (the stadium) before the election, and there was never any indication by the Liberals that they would not be supporting a new stadium.
"The Premier needs to honour that commitment."
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:48 am
by yob
At the rate Leighton Holdings' share price is falling, it could be more cost effective to buy the company then build it for free.
Think i'm joking? The company was capped at $25 billion less than a year ago. It's now down to $8 billion
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:51 pm
by Jeffles
yob wrote:At the rate Leighton Holdings' share price is falling, it could be more cost effective to buy the company then build it for free.
Think i'm joking? The company was capped at $25 billion less than a year ago. It's now down to $8 billion
Wait another couple of months and the prices will intersect.
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:30 pm
by Rob
Barnett really needs to get a minister that knows something about sport and stadiums so he can stop embarassing himself time and time again.
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:26 pm
by yob
Jeffles wrote:yob wrote:At the rate Leighton Holdings' share price is falling, it could be more cost effective to buy the company then build it for free.
Think i'm joking? The company was capped at $25 billion less than a year ago. It's now down to $8 billion
Wait another couple of months and the prices will intersect.
Come to think of it, Multiplex should be going cheap. Home grown company as well.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:01 am
by docker
yob wrote:Jeffles wrote:yob wrote:At the rate Leighton Holdings' share price is falling, it could be more cost effective to buy the company then build it for free.
Think i'm joking? The company was capped at $25 billion less than a year ago. It's now down to $8 billion
Wait another couple of months and the prices will intersect.
Come to think of it, Multiplex should be going cheap. Home grown company as well.
they've already been brought out by the canadians.
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:49 am
by docker
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx? ... tID=106784
Premier all but kills hope for new stadium
7th November 2008, 6:00 WST
Colin Barnett has all but ruled out building a totally new stadium at Subiaco, saying yesterday that it would offer no improvement for football fans until 2016.
This is despite the previous government saying that under its proposal to build a new stadium, 40,000 new seats would have been available in time for the 2014 AFL season, equal to the number contained in the existing stadium.
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The Premier told ABC radio that while a final decision had yet to be made,
it was a “fair assumption” that the existing Subiaco Oval would be rebuilt progressively to a capacity of 55,000 seats rather than completely redeveloped as a 60,000-seat multi-purpose stadium capable of accommodating all football codes and cricket.
But stadium task force chairman John Langoulant warned that rebuilding the existing arena would subject sports fans to “death by a 1000 improvements” and would not offer a long-term solution to the State’s sporting needs.
He said refurbishing Subiaco Oval along the lines of the MCG would not necessarily provide improved facilities any faster than a new venue.
“We’re dealing with a stadium that is more than half the capacity of the MCG and we’re proposing to put a construction site into it (for a long time) and progressively upgrade it,” he said.
Mr Langoulant said if the current economic climate and constrained government finances meant a new stadium, designed to last at least 50 years, was not affordable, the project should be deferred.
“This is a long-term investment, not just out to 2016,” he said. “(It would be better to) put it off … stay with what we have and maybe when the next business cycle turns around in five years time we can revisit the whole question again,” he said.
Task force member Terry Budge said it was vital that a new stadium be built and it should be deferred if necessary.
Shadow sports minister Ken Travers said the Premier should recognise the efforts of the two-year, $1.7 million stadium task force, which had clearly identified a new stadium as the best option. “Mr Barnett needs to learn to take advice from experts and stop developing policy on the back of an envelope,” he said.
Sports Minister Terry Waldron said he was still seeking advice on both options and no decision had been made.
The Premier also reiterated that the WA Museum would probably be refurbished at its current location in the Northbridge cultural precinct rather than move to the old East Perth power station.
The Government is in the throes of reviewing all major projects.
PETER KERR
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:06 pm
by the guy
docker wrote:http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx? ... tID=106784
Premier all but kills hope for new stadium
7th November 2008, 6:00 WST
Colin Barnett has all but ruled out building a totally new stadium at Subiaco, saying yesterday that it would offer no improvement for football fans until
2016.
When of course, he will be out of politics.
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:16 pm
by RobertHeatleyStand
Shadow sports minister Ken Travers said the Premier should recognise the efforts of the two-year, $1.7 million stadium task force, which had clearly identified a new stadium as the best option. “Mr Barnett needs to learn to take advice from experts and stop developing policy on the back of an envelope,” he said.
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:01 am
by Rob
Barnett is a buffoon, and wouldn't be able to tell a football apart from a full sized african elephant.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:56 pm
by Mr Q
Hell, I was calling the death of the stadium the day after the election... [Edit: in fact
less than four hours after the polls closed] as soon as it was certain that the Nats had the balance of power, the stadium was the obvious source of cash to free up for Bribes for Regions (by either major party). The nail was driven in when Liz Constable stated something like "we can't have a new stadium while there are Aboriginal children who can't read".
The insanity that we can go through the whole process of the study, finally get a recommendation, get the government to commit to it, and then we have a change of government and it's all back at square one.
I just pray that a revamp of Subiaco isn't initiated while this government's in power - I'd rather postpone it again than try to fix that pile of sh*t.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:55 pm
by Egan
Mr Q wrote:Hell, I was calling the death of the stadium the day after the election... [Edit: in fact
less than four hours after the polls closed] as soon as it was certain that the Nats had the balance of power, the stadium was the obvious source of cash to free up for Bribes for Regions (by either major party). The nail was driven in when Liz Constable stated something like "we can't have a new stadium while there are Aboriginal children who can't read".
The insanity that we can go through the whole process of the study, finally get a recommendation, get the government to commit to it, and then we have a change of government and it's all back at square one.
I just pray that a revamp of Subiaco isn't initiated while this government's in power - I'd rather postpone it again than try to fix that pile of sh*t.
I think everyone but the WA Liberal Government, including their love bunnies the west are on this tune. Sport will suffer heaps for this. Barnett is not learning from history, like the traffic lights on kwinana freeway, State Library in the early 1900s...
It seems his planning situation will be likewise. Constable is good in that she is a maverick of some sort, but she is clearly biased against sport which impacts on getting this development sorted.
The capacity of 55,000 is f***ing ridiculous as well, when everyone knows you have to be conservative over 60,000 than under.
The West will pay big time for these bunch of cronies, Labor was not perfect...but the WA Liberals are in effect the most backwards politicians in the country.
The insanity that we can go through the whole process of the study, finally get a recommendation, get the government to commit to it, and then we have a change of government and it's all back at square one.
I have a feeling it is payback from when Gallop said to the Libs, f**k off we are building the train line down the freeway and not doing the Barnett loop in Rockingham.
Barnett seems to be that sort of person...
Come on Grylls, reneg on the agreement.
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:59 pm
by Egan
Mate I am stoked you don't support all conservative parties in this world