Building a new stadium in perth... at last.
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Given that West Coast pretty much sells out every game it plays at Subi, and even the dockers are now getting close to capacity crowds for an 'average' game, there is no doubt at all that Perth needs a stadium with capacity of about 60K (said this before on some of the numerous WA stadium/Subi threads). Its need is more than any other Aust city at present, as no stadium gets sold out or near to capacity so often.
Wether its a redeveloped Subi or a brand new stadium, I'll leave to the locals to discuss, coz I don't know enough on that topic - but its very obvious that a bigger stadium is badly needed.
Wether its a redeveloped Subi or a brand new stadium, I'll leave to the locals to discuss, coz I don't know enough on that topic - but its very obvious that a bigger stadium is badly needed.
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I agree that Perth needs a larger main football stadium more than any other main city.
Perth is definitely in a stronger position that Brisbane crowds wise -
if they had a 60k ground, the Eagles could average 50k and sell out at least a few. The dockers right now get 35k average and could hit 50k for bigger matches.
Compares pretty favourably with the Broncos who are getting 30k in a 52k stadium.
Sure, SoO could pull 100k if Brissie had a big stadium, but an Eagles-Dockers derby could get, well, the total of a big Eagles crowd and a big dockers crowd. It sounds insane but a 100k+ crowd is not unimaginable once or twice a season (The same principle would apply in Adelaide for a showdown). So State of Origin and Derbies cancel each other out and Perth wins out because the two AFL clubs each have a bigger active supporter bases.
Perth is definitely in a stronger position that Brisbane crowds wise -
if they had a 60k ground, the Eagles could average 50k and sell out at least a few. The dockers right now get 35k average and could hit 50k for bigger matches.
Compares pretty favourably with the Broncos who are getting 30k in a 52k stadium.
Sure, SoO could pull 100k if Brissie had a big stadium, but an Eagles-Dockers derby could get, well, the total of a big Eagles crowd and a big dockers crowd. It sounds insane but a 100k+ crowd is not unimaginable once or twice a season (The same principle would apply in Adelaide for a showdown). So State of Origin and Derbies cancel each other out and Perth wins out because the two AFL clubs each have a bigger active supporter bases.
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Get a few more posts under your belt before you start mouthing off.You're a dead set idiot mate.
I seem to recall the QE2 SoO when Suncorp was being rebuilt only got 48 000 when many soucres say the stadium holds over 55 000, so don't be too confident.State of Origin would get 80k if there were such a stadium in Brisbane
Simple not true, less than 50 000 showed up to the last one.Every game the Wallabies have played at Suncorp has been a sell out
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With that attitude, it never will be. you have the City, only one team, and a fantastic stadium in a League state, why not pull what 'shity little Perth' pulls regularly.It is just plain stupid to say an NRL side should be averaging 38k, it isn't AFL mate.
I love it how moist you sound about this, Freo ( the city's second team) just pulled 36 000 against the last placed team.Are you unable to count? It drew 30k against a lacklustre Bulldogs outfit not even in the top 10 teams.
Mate, just accept it, We out perform you. Just like how most West Australian are aware that Melbourne and Adelaide are more passionate then us. Hell I'm passionate about my teams and I'm sure you are but you can't deny the numbers.[/quote]
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mildly ammusing. I don't know what's funnier, JF missing Stadiumkings subtle compliments regarding his suburb blabing, or the fact that JF, obviously sparked by his own insecurities, passes off Stadiumking as a Western Australia who "cannot handle having the piss taken out of him", he's a victorian bucko.JF_Bay22_SCG wrote:an Eagles supporter getting all snobby and playing the moral upper ground thing; like how did I ever imagine in a million years that that would happen. Another insecure West australian who cannot handle having the piss taken out of him obviously.stadiumking wrote: As stupid and immature as you are JF, you got a laugh out of me!
My words about Eagles supporters obviously have touched a nerve, haven't they? Even Egan agrees with them, which pretty much says it all, doesn't it?
JF
Why would your eagle ranting touch a nerve? it's your issue, not ours. Moral of the story: Never take on an idiot, they'll only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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cheers mike.perthsmike wrote:mildly ammusing. I don't know what's funnier, JF missing Stadiumkings subtle compliments regarding his suburb blabing, or the fact that JF, obviously sparked by his own insecurities, passes off Stadiumking as a Western Australia who "cannot handle having the piss taken out of him", he's a victorian bucko.JF_Bay22_SCG wrote:an Eagles supporter getting all snobby and playing the moral upper ground thing; like how did I ever imagine in a million years that that would happen. Another insecure West australian who cannot handle having the piss taken out of him obviously.stadiumking wrote: As stupid and immature as you are JF, you got a laugh out of me!
My words about Eagles supporters obviously have touched a nerve, haven't they? Even Egan agrees with them, which pretty much says it all, doesn't it?
JF
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I think you summed it up perfectly.
I case you didn't realise, or drew random/inaccurate connotations from my post, I was saying that the immaturity was found in the fact that we were posting names of footballers that sound like genitals.
I don't care about what's said about the Eagles and their supporters - it doesn't affect me...seing as I have only been to a handful of Subiaco Eagles games, I don't really have an opinion on the 'stereotype of supporters' that the team draws. If anything, I barrack for my team....by your standards....more like a Victorian supporter.
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So does this mean i have the license to abuse the crap out of peopleGet a few more posts under your belt before you start mouthing off.
Adelaide more passionate for AFL/Test Cricket/Netball/Basketball...but were probably even or just ahead in soccer...Rugby Union - Perth.
In regards to the Eagles fans...no comment, everyone knows were I stand...but guys get with the topic...its old news...were having a debate about crowd figues
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Every game the Wallabies have played at Suncorp has been a sell out
England verse Australia sold out in less than 60 minutes mate. I was there. Wallabies tickets at Suncorp are in some cases almost double what you pay at Subiaco.[/quote]tom wrote:Simpley not true, less than 50 000 showed up to the last one.
It looks likely that Perth may pull larger crowds, but it is not a bigger sporting city than Brisbane, which was the point I meant to argue in the first place.
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quote]Wally wrote:tom wrote:Simpley not true, less than 50 000 showed up to the last one.
Simply not true??? It broke the ground record of over 52k, and as Wally mentioned, was sold out in 60mins with alot of tickets going for well over $100.
Ticket prices for Origin and Rugby Tests (even more so) are real expensive compared to most regular footy matches. This definitely has an impact on how many people attend sport for the rest of the season. In leagues case, Origin takes the shine off regular season games as it is so huge… something AFL games don’t have to worry about.
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Whatever the truth about the merits of Brissie and Perth crowds on this thread, the fact remains that Brissie already has its you beaut, big, plush, SOTA stadium.
But Perth doesn't, and really needs one - badly (as shown by the repeated sellouts at Subi). Thats the point (well my point anyway!). The debate should be on where it should be - upgrade Subi or some brand spanking new thing somewhere else. I don't have the local knowledge to contribute an opinion on that, but am interested in what the locals think.
But Perth doesn't, and really needs one - badly (as shown by the repeated sellouts at Subi). Thats the point (well my point anyway!). The debate should be on where it should be - upgrade Subi or some brand spanking new thing somewhere else. I don't have the local knowledge to contribute an opinion on that, but am interested in what the locals think.
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We already have debated this subject to a high degree, with the consensus being that Burswood would be the best place for a 60,000 seat stadium, although personally I swayed to a stadium in the suburbs - Thomsons Lake.The debate should be on where it should be - upgrade Subi or some brand spanking new thing somewhere else. I don't have the local knowledge to contribute an opinion on that, but am interested in what the locals think.
The other topic is more popular, because we havent got into that one yet
Sandyhill this is probably the most indepth discussion we had of a new stadium at Burswood...beware though its full of Sandgropers.
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